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J.S. Gilbert
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| Okay serious reply now. Beyrdynamic DT 770 headphones are my favorites. |
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Colin Campbell
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I use a 20 year old pair of Sony "MDR-V6's" at work (my old set) with new replacement pads. At home I have the newer model designation "Sony MDR-7506" as does Scott Pollak.
SONY MDR-7506 are the ones! Solidly built, available replacement earpads. The sound is simply AWESOME. No shortage of highs in this model!
I've heard that the V600's were lacking.
Many studios use the MDR-7506's as standard issue.
Sony MDR-7506... $99... and worth every penny.
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David Oxford
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| Posted: Sun Mar 16, 2008, 04:04 (GMT) Post subject: Re: headphones |
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| J.S. Gilbert wrote: | | Hearing Problems? No worries, these headphones from JBL, feature 12" woofers and 6" tweeters and will get you that sound you need |
LOL J.S......
Sort-of like that 500-watt alarm clock: "You're guaranteed to never oversleep again!!!"
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Frank Cabanski
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The only time you should edit with headphones is when you know the sound is right, and just have to combine, cut, paste elements.
Headphones do not give you an accurate hearing of the sound acoustics. |
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Allison Scussel
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| Frank Cabanski wrote: | The only time you should edit with headphones is when you know the sound is right, and just have to combine, cut, paste elements.
Headphones do not give you an accurate hearing of the sound acoustics. |
True, but SONY's rule, regardless. When it comes to headphones, U get what U pay for. Anything less than $140 USD, is a waiste of money. I love my SONY's... paid anywhere from $120-$150 & I love all of them. Anything cheaper, and it was money in the trash.
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David Oxford
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| Frank Cabanski wrote: | | Headphones do not give you an accurate hearing of the sound acoustics. |
Frank:
For editing? Headphones are fine. For mixing? I would agree with you (although, I will say that I know my headphones so well that I can actually mix with them and get it almost perfect.) |
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Emmett Andrews
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There are two main reasons not to mix with headphones. The first is that bass response is going to be incorrect, even with a very good set. The second has to do with the way stereo imagery works...It will never translate properly. That being said, you can still do pretty well with a nice set of cans. I trust my old AKG K240M's almost as much as my monitors. And I've gotten to know my Beyers very well, so I can get pretty far with them too.
| Quote: | | Anything less than $140 USD, is a waiste of money. |
I don't buy that at all. The Sonys you see most often are the MDR-7506, mentioned so many times above. $99. Sennheiser HD280 are $99. AKG K240 Studio (if you can still find them) are $99. Audio Technica ATH M30 are about $70. You can't judge much based on price alone. I use Beyer DT770's that, I believe, are now going for about $240. I may like them twice as much, but I certainly don't think they're twice as good as any of the headphones listed above.
The $100 price range is pretty much ideal for quality cans. There are a few gems under that price and a few gems over that price, but $100 is the turning point, in general. That's the price point where you'll find the most value.
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Colin Campbell
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I think one of the reasons people like the Sonys so much is that they make things sound better than they actually are. What sounds great to me in the cans tends to come out muddy. I've been wanting a good set of monitors but funds are tight.
Anyone have experience with the Alesis M1 Active?
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David Oxford
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| Emmett Andrews wrote: | The Sonys you see most often are the MDR-7506, mentioned so many times above. $99. Sennheiser HD280 are $99. AKG K240 Studio (if you can still find them) are $99. Audio Technica ATH M30 are about $70. You can't judge much based on price alone. I use Beyer DT770's that, I believe, are now going for about $240. I may like them twice as much, but I certainly don't think they're twice as good as any of the headphones listed above.
The $100 price range is pretty much ideal for quality cans. There are a few gems under that price and a few gems over that price, but $100 is the turning point, in general. That's the price point where you'll find the most value.
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Good points, Emmett. I like to think that the $200 price point is a better standard - but, then again, I did quite a bit of work in pro studios where music was the product, not VO; therefore, the importance of a great pair of cans was mainly in giving the vocalist great reproduction so they could give a top-notch performance in the recording booth (not for editing or mixing purposes.) In my experience, Sony's were the headphones of choice more times than not.
When I was in broadcast, Sennheiser seemed to be a predominant choice and, admittedly, I liked the boost they give on the extremes (upper & lower); however, that being said, this is also the primary reason I don't like them in studio/VO applications - because, again, I want a true representation of what's really going on and, for me, the Sennheisers color it up too much. I have used some AKG's sporadically, although it's been awhile and don't recall too much about the specific models I used - I just remember they were very nice.
I DO like my DT770's but would be equally happy with the Sony MDR-7900's.
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Colin Campbell
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I looked at the Sony 7906 ($199) and noted they were all plastic while the venerable 7506's use a metal band (being of an older design.)
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Emmett Andrews
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| Colin Campbell wrote: | I think one of the reasons people like the Sonys so much is that they make things sound better than they actually are. What sounds great to me in the cans tends to come out muddy. I've been wanting a good set of monitors but funds are tight.
Anyone have experience with the Alesis M1 Active? |
Yes, the Sonys (at least the 7506) are flattering more than flat.
I have a set of the Alesis M1 Active 620s and I like them a lot. The EQ switches are wonderful. Out of the box, they were a bit bright, but a quick flip down on the hi EQ switch made them reasonably flat to my ears. I tested out all the 6" monitors in that price range and I thought the Alesis were the clear winner...Without a doubt, the best stereo imaging of the bunch.
For 5", I really, really like the Event ALP5. Definitely worth checking out.
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