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Craig Crumpton
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008, 05:33 (GMT)    Post subject: How to prep yourself to record your demo Reply with quote

I've spent years researching voiceovers and have taken workshops, but not once can I recall reading anywhere or hearing a pro explain how to fully prepare yourself to record a demo once you know you're ready.

The VO stuff I've done to date unfortunately isn't usable for a commercial demo, so I'm going to have to record everything from scratch.

And it looks like I'll be recording my commercial demo on Thursday the 17th, provided everything goes according to schedule with the studio and my producer.

I know I need some really crisp, tight, well-written copy that's suited to my voice and style, and I've been looking over magazine ads and emulating the kind of good scripts I've heard on the radio. I once used "The Voiceover Cyberstation" for practice copy, but that site has since gone belly-up.

What sites are you pros recommending for free VO scripts these days?

And in the advice I've gotten from some pros, they've said that since I specialize in character voices that when I do record a demo I could probably "cheat" and throw in a character voice or two if 1-2 of the spots are dialog bits. And I'm confident that I can alter my voice enough to have my character voices distinguishable from each other in dialog. (And if you've seen my "Casey At The Bat" performance I linked in the demo forum, perhaps you might agree with me.)

But how do you pros feel about that? Should I keep it straightforward, and just be real, conversational, and genuine? Or should I mix it up a little and add some quick dialog bits, or even do a "hardsell" announcery voice just for a little variety?

Any other helpful suggestions on prepping myself for this event (that's been a long time in coming) would be greatly appreciated... and not just in the days leading up to recording, but the day of as well.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008, 14:32 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

First of all, if you are asking these questions today and planning to collect your own copy and don't have anything, you may need to move that recording date a bit.

Second, what is the producer doing? I would think that part of the producer's job is working with you to first figure out what 'kind" of a demo to produce and help you get copy. Have you been working with a voice coach to help you find your niche? Do you have a marketing plan in place for what to do with the demo once it is done?

Are you going to be using the demo to market your voice doing radio and TV spots? Or do you want to try to break into Animation? Those are two very different demos. And how you get copy for both is different.

No matter what - do not use any copy that you buy from a script source - unless you tweak it to be different (different product, change the POV, etc.). Do not use any copy you find in any of the VO books - unless you doctor it. Mainstream agazines do make a great source for copy - particularly for a commercial demo.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008, 21:48 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks, Connie for taking the time to offer a detailed reply.

Incidentally, your site was among the first I discovered that offered VO info back in the late 90's when I began researching the industry to see if I should bother trying to pursue it even as a part-time career considering how competitive the industry is.

I am also responsible for being the editor who first indexed your site at dmoz.org back in '99, and at the time I took the liberty of adding some of your subpages in related VO info categories too. No telling how much more web traffic you've gotten since then just from those additional listings.

So that royalty check is long overdue... Wink

Connie Terwilliger wrote:
First of all, if you are asking these questions today and planning to collect your own copy and don't have anything, you may need to move that recording date a bit.
I've collected dozens of scripts from VO auditions I've done over the last few years. But I can't use the audio from those auditions on my demo because the production quality is inferior compared to what I'll be recording Thursday.

I will be using many of the scripts, however. I was just asking for some additional sources for copy to have more options to choose from for the final demo cut.

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Second, what is the producer doing? I would think that part of the producer's job is working with you to first figure out what 'kind" of a demo to produce and help you get copy.
The producer is a veteran on-air radio personality and voiceover artist and has produced other VO demos as well. I trust her knowledge and experience implicitly.

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Have you been working with a voice coach to help you find your niche?
I've taken two VO workshops and have received instruction/coaching from a few other pros who are well-known in the industry and I'd mention them except I don't want it to sound like I'm "name-dropping".

Even though I specialize in character voices and impressions, I've been told by pros that my conversational style is my niche for commercials. I've been told repeatedly that I have a nice, warm, believable style--the guy-next door quality. And in the stage work I've done, I tend to get cast as the friendly uncle, the best friend, the teacher, and minister-type roles.

I've also been told my commercial style is comparable with Michael Bell and Rob Paulsen when they're not doing characters. I have the same basic tenor range and that "soft" vocal style that they have as well.

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Do you have a marketing plan in place for what to do with the demo once it is done?
I already have representation with four agencies who are all waiting to receive a VO demo from me. I have a website in development that will launch as soon as my demo is completed. And I have quite a few clients I've done previous work with who are also waiting for a demo.

And I've basically been doing web marketing as a hobby for 10 years, so getting broad exposure for my own website shouldn't be difficult. I've also worked in retail for half my life and have lots of experience selling product--even moreso when selling myself as a product to a potential employer or client.

I've made decent supplemental income marketing myself for live gigs as an actor/entertainer over the last 10 years, and I'm prepared to do the same thing for my VO career once I have a demo in hand.

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Are you going to be using the demo to market your voice doing radio and TV spots? Or do you want to try to break into Animation?
Yes, to the first question. No, to the second.

Commercial work is the majority of the market, and while I would love to "break into animation", I'm not ready to do a character voice demo yet, but I will be getting that one done with the same producer although I'm going to wait until I've had time to circulate my commercial demo.

Through one agent I have done a number of VO auditions for animation and video games (Disney, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, Nickelodeon, Big Idea, LucasArts, and EA Games), but haven't landed any gigs to date. But in hindsight, I was also untrained and unprepared for the first couple years after I got an agent. I learned through doing, and then I got some actual training and discovered why my auditions weren't getting results.

And yes, I'm aware that it's extremely rare in the industry to land an agent and get auditions without a demo. I consider myself very blessed in how such opportunities have basically been dropped in my lap.

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No matter what - do not use any copy that you buy from a script source - unless you tweak it to be different (different product, change the POV, etc.). Do not use any copy you find in any of the VO books - unless you doctor it. Mainstream agazines do make a great source for copy - particularly for a commercial demo.
Really do appreciate these useful tidbits, Connie. I'll keep all these things in mind.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008, 22:18 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig Crumpton wrote:
Thanks, Connie for taking the time to offer a detailed reply.

Incidentally, your site was among the first I discovered that offered VO info back in the late 90's when I began researching the industry to see if I should bother trying to pursue it even as a part-time career considering how competitive the industry is.

I am also responsible for being the editor who first indexed your site at dmoz.org back in '99, and at the time I took the liberty of adding some of your subpages in related VO info categories too. No telling how much more web traffic you've gotten since then just from those additional listings.

So that royalty check is long overdue... Wink

Connie Terwilliger wrote:
First of all, if you are asking these questions today and planning to collect your own copy and don't have anything, you may need to move that recording date a bit.
I've collected dozens of scripts from VO auditions I've done over the last few years. But I can't use the audio from those auditions on my demo because the production quality is inferior compared to what I'll be recording Thursday.

I will be using many of the scripts, however. I was just asking for some additional sources for copy to have more options to choose from for the final demo cut.

Quote:
Second, what is the producer doing? I would think that part of the producer's job is working with you to first figure out what 'kind" of a demo to produce and help you get copy.
The producer is a veteran on-air radio personality and voiceover artist and has produced other VO demos as well. I trust her knowledge and experience implicitly.

Quote:
Have you been working with a voice coach to help you find your niche?
I've taken two VO workshops and have received instruction/coaching from a few other pros who are well-known in the industry and I'd mention them except I don't want it to sound like I'm "name-dropping".

Even though I specialize in character voices and impressions, I've been told by pros that my conversational style is my niche for commercials. I've been told repeatedly that I have a nice, warm, believable style--the guy-next door quality. And in the stage work I've done, I tend to get cast as the friendly uncle, the best friend, the teacher, and minister-type roles.

I've also been told my commercial style is comparable with Michael Bell and Rob Paulsen when they're not doing characters. I have the same basic tenor range and that "soft" vocal style that they have as well.

Quote:
Do you have a marketing plan in place for what to do with the demo once it is done?
I already have representation with four agencies who are all waiting to receive a VO demo from me. I have a website in development that will launch as soon as my demo is completed. And I have quite a few clients I've done previous work with who are also waiting for a demo.

And I've basically been doing web marketing as a hobby for 10 years, so getting broad exposure for my own website shouldn't be difficult. I've also worked in retail for half my life and have lots of experience selling product--even moreso when selling myself as a product to a potential employer or client.

I've made decent supplemental income marketing myself for live gigs as an actor/entertainer over the last 10 years, and I'm prepared to do the same thing for my VO career once I have a demo in hand.

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Are you going to be using the demo to market your voice doing radio and TV spots? Or do you want to try to break into Animation?
Yes, to the first question. No, to the second.

Commercial work is the majority of the market, and while I would love to "break into animation", I'm not ready to do a character voice demo yet, but I will be getting that one done with the same producer although I'm going to wait until I've had time to circulate my commercial demo.

Through one agent I have done a number of VO auditions for animation and video games (Disney, Cartoon Network, Adult Swim, Nickelodeon, Big Idea, LucasArts, and EA Games), but haven't landed any gigs to date. But in hindsight, I was also untrained and unprepared for the first couple years after I got an agent. I learned through doing, and then I got some actual training and discovered why my auditions weren't getting results.

And yes, I'm aware that it's extremely rare in the industry to land an agent and get auditions without a demo. I consider myself very blessed in how such opportunities have basically been dropped in my lap.

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No matter what - do not use any copy that you buy from a script source - unless you tweak it to be different (different product, change the POV, etc.). Do not use any copy you find in any of the VO books - unless you doctor it. Mainstream agazines do make a great source for copy - particularly for a commercial demo.
Really do appreciate these useful tidbits, Connie. I'll keep all these things in mind.



Hey Craigster!

Yet once again, I must agree 100% with everything Connie said! Bravo, Connie!!

What concerns me most is, when one is absolutely ready for that rockin demo, they don't usually ask the questions you've asked. This should all be instint. Are you sure you are ready for the demo? Remember-one bad demo can ruin your future chances with each listener. This business will always be here! Make sure you are as good or better than everyone else out there when deciding to make that demo!

NEVER use online copy when it comes to a demo! Your demo should be as original and unique as you are!

Keep the commercial demo character free. One minute of YOU. Your own individual personality, wit, sense of humor, cadence, etc. The conversational, real you!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008, 23:06 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Hey Craigster!
Hey Bobster! You get that thing I sent ya? Wink

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What concerns me most is, when one is absolutely ready for that rockin demo, they don't usually ask the questions you've asked. This should all be instint. Are you sure you are ready for the demo?
Yeah, I believe it's finally the right time for this. I have a really good gut feeling about it.

However, I seem to have pre-demo jitters or something. I was only asking these questions to make sure I've covered everything I need to make final preparations for this.

Like I said, I've never heard any pro say "this is what I did to prep myself the week before and the day of when I recorded my demo." Just wanted to get some advice from the pros here, to make sure I haven't missed important detail I might have accidentally overlooked.

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Keep the commercial demo character free. One minute of YOU. Your own individual personality, wit, sense of humor, cadence, etc. The conversational, real you!
But... there is no me. I do not exist. There used to be a me but I had it surgically removed.

(quote blatantly ripped from Peter Sellers' appearance on The Muppet Show)

Thanks for the advice, Bob. Much appreciated.

BTW, I have another matter I'll be contacting you on shortly regarding what's involved in pulling off a one-man show. I have an incredible opportunity that's come my way recently that I need some advice on. I'm trying not to get my hopes up about it, but provided it works out it could be HUGE for my career.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008, 23:46 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Incidentally, your site was among the first I discovered that offered VO info back in the late 90's when I began researching the industry to see if I should bother trying to pursue it even as a part-time career considering how competitive the industry is.

I am also responsible for being the editor who first indexed your site at dmoz.org back in '99, and at the time I took the liberty of adding some of your subpages in related VO info categories too. No telling how much more web traffic you've gotten since then just from those additional listings.

So that royalty check is long overdue...


Craig - all I can tell you is that perhaps the "extra web traffic" generated by your generosity has been helpful in avoiding spending excess dollars on pay-per-click advertising.

Break a leg in the booth!

(ps - this is something I talk to my introductory class about - how hard it is to get noticed if you are just starting a website. And how important it is to be noticed. I've been online with a website since 1996 - www.corporatevideo.com - when I was doing more producing and writing than voiceover work...so despite many requests to sell the domain, I plan to keep it.)

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008, 23:50 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig Crumpton wrote:
Bob Bergen wrote:
Hey Craigster!
Hey Bobster! You get that thing I sent ya? Wink

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What concerns me most is, when one is absolutely ready for that rockin demo, they don't usually ask the questions you've asked. This should all be instint. Are you sure you are ready for the demo?
Yeah, I believe it's finally the right time for this. I have a really good gut feeling about it.

However, I seem to have pre-demo jitters or something. I was only asking these questions to make sure I've covered everything I need to make final preparations for this.

Like I said, I've never heard any pro say "this is what I did to prep myself the week before and the day of when I recorded my demo." Just wanted to get some advice from the pros here, to make sure I haven't missed important detail I might have accidentally overlooked.

Quote:
Keep the commercial demo character free. One minute of YOU. Your own individual personality, wit, sense of humor, cadence, etc. The conversational, real you!
But... there is no me. I do not exist. There used to be a me but I had it surgically removed.

(quote blatantly ripped from Peter Sellers' appearance on The Muppet Show)

Thanks for the advice, Bob. Much appreciated.

BTW, I have another matter I'll be contacting you on shortly regarding what's involved in pulling off a one-man show. I have an incredible opportunity that's come my way recently that I need some advice on. I'm trying not to get my hopes up about it, but provided it works out it could be HUGE for my career.



Well, the only prep you need to do is gather the copy. That's really the hardest part. You'll go through dozens of copy before finding the 10-15 pieces that will eventually work.

I wouldn't over work the copy. You don't want it to be stale. Plus, you really should be able to read the copy pretty cold and still give a competitive read.

Everyone working today has gotten there in a different manner. I think the reason you haven't heard how pros have prepped their demo is because all of us have different journeys.

Gather the copy, record with a great producer who knows how to produce/make the spots sound broadcast quality, giving variety from spot to spot which gives the listener the illusion that each spot is real.

The true prep is being ready for the demo. If you any doubts, even the slightest, you should wait. Keep in mind your competition has no doubts. They can do this with their eyes closed. You need to have the same confidence.

As for producing a one person show, dude-that's a novel!!!!!!!!! Once my script was written it was a year's journey of finding theaters, techs, insurance policies, PR, hiring stage managers, designing and printing programs, etc.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008, 18:05 (GMT)    Post subject: Recording a new demo Reply with quote

Just so everybody knows, Craig's my brother... has been since I was born (or dropped on the doorstep as he has suggested), so he's always giving me tips about recording.

I already have a site up and running, although I'm always adding content to it.

He suggested I have a commercial demo and a character demo on my homepage, just so people can get a chance to see (or hear) what I can do.

I kind of felt rushed, so I just pulled from some of my best stuff (in my own opinion) and mix-pasted them into a minute demo each. But I didn't want them to be my REAL demos. I guess my question is, in a commercial demo, you all suggest ONLY your own voice, but wouldn't a minute demo of nothing but my own voice be redundant and lose my target representation/customer? Shouldn't there be accents or just a modified version of my own voice to show flexibility in there too? Something that represents my ability to pitch my voice higher or lower or other vocal tricks that grab an audience instead of me reading copy as myself through the whole thing? I mean, Craig, you yourself told me I have to GET them in the first ten seconds.

I would RATHER try getting into animation, but right now, I just want something I can put on a resume!

My character demo is just my immitations of pre-existing characters, but like I said, it was just meant to be something people could hear when they go to my homepage. I am working on a demo of my OWN characters that would be my final demo for selling/promoting my voice.

Any suggestions? And how do I know which characters are my best?

I'd upload my demos but they are already on my VOICE 123 profile and my homepage @ http://manof1000voices.com but like I said, they are just temp demos so I'd have SOMETHING there.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 28, 2008, 18:23 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: Recording a new demo Reply with quote

J. C. Bailey wrote:
Just so everybody knows, Craig's my brother... has been since I was born (or dropped on the doorstep as he has suggested), so he's always giving me tips about recording.

I already have a site up and running, although I'm always adding content to it.

He suggested I have a commercial demo and a character demo on my homepage, just so people can get a chance to see (or hear) what I can do.

I kind of felt rushed, so I just pulled from some of my best stuff (in my own opinion) and mix-pasted them into a minute demo each. But I didn't want them to be my REAL demos. I guess my question is, in a commercial demo, you all suggest ONLY your own voice, but wouldn't a minute demo of nothing but my own voice be redundant and lose my target representation/customer? Shouldn't there be accents or just a modified version of my own voice to show flexibility in there too? Something that represents my ability to pitch my voice higher or lower or other vocal tricks that grab an audience instead of me reading copy as myself through the whole thing? I mean, Craig, you yourself told me I have to GET them in the first ten seconds.

I would RATHER try getting into animation, but right now, I just want something I can put on a resume!

My character demo is just my immitations of pre-existing characters, but like I said, it was just meant to be something people could hear when they go to my homepage. I am working on a demo of my OWN characters that would be my final demo for selling/promoting my voice.

Any suggestions? And how do I know which characters are my best?

I'd upload my demos but they are already on my VOICE 123 profile and my homepage @ http://manof1000voices.com but like I said, they are just temp demos so I'd have SOMETHING there.


Hey bud!

Well, first of all, what a talented gene pool your family has!!!

As for your commercial demo, logically I agree with you. You'd think that showing off as much versatility in a commercial demo as you can would naturally up the odds of getting work by showing that you can be all things VO.

Thirty years ago that would be the case. These days the buyers want within your commercial demo just you. Different sides of you, but still the real you. That is what will set you aside from all the others. No one else is you. No one else has your sense of humor, personality, etc. Commercials today are all about being real. It's good actors, not good mimics or versatile vocal ranges that get you work in commercials.

And since 90 plus % of the day to day activity in VO is commercials, the commercial demo is the most important demo, and always the one to start out with. Then get the animation, narration, promo, etc.

And it's not a good idea to just have "something" on your site for the sake of having "something." You post a demo when you have something brilliant that, well, represents the best you can be.

Does this help??
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008, 05:57 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

MUCH! Thanks. I'd ask for your autograph on my Duck Dodgers t-shirt, but I don't think that'll happen.

So should I remove my "demos" (if you wanna call them that) from my homepage?

Here are some other questions: how many different "spots" should be included in my frst REAL commercial demo; can you be specific about "different sides;" what all do I have to do/go through to get into animation (based on what you've done); and lastly, did I start trying too late?

As for having a talented family, that remains to be seen unless you have already heard something I've done... but thanks anyway. Of course, I AM more talented than my brother... just kidding.

But just for fun, you can hear my now ridiculous-sounding demos... the funny thing is, I thought they were at least okay. I know you CAN be harsh, but bare with me... I'm a noob and I absolutely know that none of the characters in my character demo are mine. They are just clips I recorded for fun and rushed together a demo to have something to show... apparently, not the brightest thing I've done thus far. And after listening to it more, the commercial demo DOES have some of "just me" but now that I think about it, some of them should be considered character voices too. Oh, well. You should at least be able to tear up by laughing at them so hard that it makes you cry. Embarassed



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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008, 13:03 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hey bud!

Well, first of all, characters don't belong on a commercial demo. You want one minute of just you.

Before answering your questions. read this from my website:

http://bobbergen.com/faq.htm

It's a tad out of date. My website is in the process of being updated and redesigned. But for the most part, the info is acurate. Demos are a minute now, not a minute and a half.

My advice is, yes, never have anything representing you on your website that isn't brilliant. By virtue of having a demo, you are presenting to folks that you are as good or better than everyone working today.

Read away at my FAQ page. Then if you have more questions ask away.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008, 15:15 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

I did know about the whole 1 minute rule... like I said, I sort of got it in my head that I just needed something there.

Wow. That was a lot of info to take in. But after reading your faq, you say that your animation demo SHOULD be a minute and a half and it should be different clips... so I think maybe at least I had the structure right, and my clips (although they weren't my own characters) were "doing" something, for the most part and I think I had a good variety. So I think I was at least thinking in the right direction as far as how to put one together.

But you never actually said whether or not you would pull my "demos" from my homepage for now (if you were me). And no personal offense, seeing how you're already established and all and I'm a zero as of right now, but your "taco" bit sounded a lot more like a "character" rather than the "real you," but that's just me. Wink But from what I listened to, what you mean by "different sides" is basically different pitch and tempo? Am I close? It's good to know that I at least got a couple of things right about how to go about it. I just have ALOT of fine tuning to do.

Craig seems to think that I've got the equipment to do my own demo. I've got the ability to give them different quality "sounds" like you suggest about sounding like radio, vcr or cd-type quality... and yes, all mine have that "demo" sound, so thanks for that tip. I didn't even realize before reading that.

Anything else you can suggest? And (if you even bothered listening) do I even have the talent necessary to pursue a career in this field. I honestly believe I do, but it's hard to get honest opinions from friends and family because they are so optimistic about everything. You can be as critical as you want because you are already a professional for one thing and you aren't concerned about hurting my feelings (which you shouldn't, I WANT honest feedback).

Thanks again for all the help! I actually LOVED the improv idea. I'm a childrens' church preacher and a father of four, so improv is part of my daily routine. I love throwing together characters for the kids at church... I dressed as different Bible characters and gave them each a different impression, Arnold Schwarzenneger for Samson, Patrick Warburton as Gideon and Jim Carrey (as Ace Ventura) as Noah. My oldest son has Autism and can cause a bit of a rucuss so I HAVE to improvise. But it's fun and it's funny.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008, 17:06 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow. That was a lot of info to take in. But after reading your faq, you say that your animation demo SHOULD be a minute and a half and it should be different clips... so I think maybe at least I had the structure right, and my clips (although they weren't my own characters) were "doing" something, for the most part and I think I had a good variety. So I think I was at least thinking in the right direction as far as how to put one together.

I was referring to your commercial demo being a minute. An animation demo can be a bit longer since you have more to demonstrate in an animation demo than you do in a commercial demo. An animation demo needs to showcase vocal range as well as acting range very different from a commercial read. To accomplish this you need a bit more "meat" in each byte.




Craig seems to think that I've got the equipment to do my own demo. I've got the ability to give them different quality "sounds" like you suggest about sounding like radio, vcr or cd-type quality... and yes, all mine have that "demo" sound, so thanks for that tip. I didn't even realize before reading that.

I myself don't advocate doing your own demo. Unless you are an expert and have a background in demos, know the current trends in advertising, know what the agents are looking for in talent, etc. Just because you can doesn't mean you should.


But you never actually said whether or not you would pull my "demos" from my homepage for now (if you were me). And no personal offense, seeing how you're already established and all and I'm a zero as of right now, but your "taco" bit sounded a lot more like a "character" rather than the "real you," but that's just me. Wink But from what I listened to, what you mean by "different sides" is basically different pitch and tempo? Am I close? It's good to know that I at least got a couple of things right about how to go about it. I just have ALOT of fine tuning to do.

I told you that you never want to post a demo unless it is as good or better than those working today. If it were me, I'd pull them. But you need to do what's right for you.

And you are correct in that my commercial demo has more characters. I am indeed established and don't need to have the same demo as those looking to break in.

What I mean by different sides is, different sides of your personality. Has nothing to do with pitch. Think pitch and you are thinking technically. You need to think like an actor.

i don't know if you are close commercially because I've not heard your commercial reads. I've only heard you read commercialss with character deliveries. I need to hear the real you. I need to hear your personality, your branding, your own individual style.


As for if you have what it takes to make it in VO? I absolutely hear your vocal range. Commercially, as I said, I need to hear you. As for your characters, I need to hear more originality in character. You are on the right track. Originality all around will make you more marketable.

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Connie Terwilliger
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008, 19:39 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I guess my question is, in a commercial demo, you all suggest ONLY your own voice, but wouldn't a minute demo of nothing but my own voice be redundant and lose my target representation/customer? Shouldn't there be accents or just a modified version of my own voice to show flexibility in there too? Something that represents my ability to pitch my voice higher or lower or other vocal tricks that grab an audience instead of me reading copy as myself through the whole thing?


A lot of advice has already been offered. A lot of good advice. I'd like to expound on this particular area of your initial question.

You are skating around it without quite understanding what you are saying I think. A good commercial demo lets the producer hear your "real" sound - what sets you apart. It showcases your ability to breath life into the copy. It does have variety. Your "voice" can be rich with nuances - some subtle, some not so subtle. It can be warm or hard, fast or slow, intimate or distant, young or old, happy or sad, hip or nerdy. Shades of your voice.

A good demo also has a rich variety of great copy that allows you to show this "flexibility." And that can be done in so many ways that are not necessarily "extreme." For a commercial demo you really don't need to change your pitch or show other vocal "tricks." Don't focus on the tricks - focus on good copy that lets you communicate and connect.

Before you put together a "real" demo, spend a LOT of time listening to other professional commercial demos to get a feel for what makes the good one stand out. You should begin to hear that a minute of someone's "money" voice doesn't sound the same. A lot of drama, fun, mystery, warmth, love, sell and craziness can be crammed into :60.

You have to know the competition and what the market is buying as well as knowing your own voice - its range - its acting skills. You need to figure out where you "fit" in the biz. You need to know what you have to sell before you package it.

Putting together a professional demo is the last part of the road.

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Bob Bergen
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 29, 2008, 19:59 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once again Connie shows what a pro she is! All good stuff!!!!!!!

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