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Thomas C. Gass Talent and/or Voice Producer

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007, 08:04 (GMT) Post subject: Wow! Just got a 75$ private lead!!! - Who else? |
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I've just got this private lead from a company dealing with voice-overs:
| Quote: | | Hi I have an audio file that I can pay $75 for a 1-2 minute or so narration. I will have 2 more next week. Would you be interested? This is all the money we have per part. Someone in our company made a mistake when quoting and now we have no budget! The narrations are untimed so it will not require much work. |
Sounds a little bit like a hoax to me - did anybody else got that lead, too? How would you react? Should I send him a 5$ electronic calculator for his employee? Are there any "well-known customers" that regularely place leads or are they even listed somewhere?
Thomas _________________ Thomas C. Gass
http://www.thomascgass.ch
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Amy Snively Talent and/or Voice Producer

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007, 08:27 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Is it not-for-broadcast? Because if it's an internal corporate narration, that price doesn't seem too out of line to me. But maybe I'm on crack... (and please, someone, tell me if I am!)
2 minutes = ~300 words
$75 / 300 words = .25 a word
My normal rate for a corporate narration of under 2000 words? .30 a word. Usually I have a $100 minimum, but if it's a regular gig...
So, if you don't want to do it... you can send it to me
Now I charge a LOT more for commercials and anything for broadcast, believe me. But for narrations, PowerPoints, and IVR promts, this is in my little ballpark.
(How much do you usually charge, Thomas?) |
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Robert Jadah Talent and/or Voice Producer

Joined: 17 Jun 2005 Posts: 2627
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007, 14:14 (GMT) Post subject: Delete de lead |
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it's the part about "someone in our company made a mistake and now we have no money" that would send me scrambling for the DELETE button.
A deep discount on a flimsy excuse doesn't make sense to me....
And $75 for two minutes is pretty bare bones...
speaking of which, do you still record topless, Amy?
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Robert Jadah Talent and/or Voice Producer

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007, 14:20 (GMT) Post subject: $$ ?? |
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Then there's this one this morning:
"I'm looking for voice actors, male or female, to narrate an audio book. Each actor will narrate 20 chapters at 500-1500 words each. I'd like the files in MP3 format.
Regards. *
Budget - $150."
That had better be the budget per chapter. But somehow, I doubt it.
Yours seems extravagant now, Thomas. |
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Thomas C. Gass Talent and/or Voice Producer

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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007, 14:30 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Amie, thank you for you detailled reply!
By the way, I found your posting in reply to Phyllis only after having opened my own thread here... :-/
| Quote: | | "someone in our company made a mistake and now we have no money" |
As Robert says, it's exactly that part I don't like. And in the lead there is written: Language: German or other...
Well, I've replied anyways but asking for more details - so let's see what happens.
The biggest difference in pricing between what you listed and what is usually charged over here in Switzerland are so called "minimal fees": Non broadcast recordings e.g. start at a minimum of 5 minutes recording length. So, whether the recording is 1 or 3 or 5 minutes, it's the same price. If you're interested in, I could send you my standard union-pricelist per e-mail.
Thomas _________________ Thomas C. Gass
http://www.thomascgass.ch
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Cira Larkin - Studio 53 Talent and/or Voice Producer

Joined: 08 Nov 2006 Posts: 497
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Posted: Fri Mar 02, 2007, 17:57 (GMT) Post subject: Re: $$ ?? |
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[quote="Robert Jadah"]Then there's this one this morning:
"I'm looking for voice actors, male or female, to narrate an audio book. Each actor will narrate 20 chapters at 500-1500 words each. I'd like the files in MP3 format. Budget - $150."
Robert, I answered this lead just so I could tell them I misunderstood them as meaning their quote-per-chapter. Great minds think alike!
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Amy Snively Talent and/or Voice Producer

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Posted: Sat Mar 03, 2007, 03:32 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Thomas C. Gass wrote: |
The biggest difference in pricing between what you listed and what is usually charged over here in Switzerland are so called "minimal fees": Non broadcast recordings e.g. start at a minimum of 5 minutes recording length. So, whether the recording is 1 or 3 or 5 minutes, it's the same price. If you're interested in, I could send you my standard union-pricelist per e-mail.
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I'd love to see it!
Amy |
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Susan Tackenberg Talent and/or Voice Producer

Joined: 23 Nov 2005 Posts: 4
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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007, 15:44 (GMT) Post subject: Price list Europe v. US |
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Hi Thomas
I'd be interested to see your list too. I'm based in Germany, and we also have a 5 minute minimum rate, though as English-speaking v/o talent based in Germany we are a so-called "boutique item" and thus able to charge a premium. I don't have my own studio, either, which means that many of the job leads on V123 are simply not worth my while replying to as my rates would be uncompetitive. One likes to think that "quality will out" and the client will be prepared to pay a little more for that, but sadly this is not always the case...
Susan
Frankfurt, Germany |
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Thomas C. Gass Talent and/or Voice Producer

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Posted: Tue Mar 06, 2007, 19:37 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Hi Susan,
although this might be worth opening an separate thread, Il'd like to share my thoughts about international price policy in here. As with any other business, vo business is depending on local standard prices in any aspect: a leaf of bread simply is more expensive here, and renting a 2 bedroom flat can cost you 2000$ a month. No wonder vo standard rates differ a lot from those in other countries. On the other hand, why should a producer from abroad worry about the prices of bread in my country? He could also work with a vo talent based in his country and spend much less for the vo's work.
Thanks to internet and connections like voice123 we have the opportunity to make the *small world* even smaller and I think that we have to adapt our prices slightly to the standard of the country where the lead comes from. Of course it might be a disadvantage for a vo coming from a high price country like Switzerland, and I simply may have to lower the level of my "is it worth for me to answer this particular lead".
I'm a member of the German and Swiss union of vo, thus I am used to deal with even these two completey different price lists. If you're interested in the standard prices here in Switzerland, just drop me a private message with your e-mail address and I will forward my list.
All the best
Thomas _________________ Thomas C. Gass
http://www.thomascgass.ch
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Thomas C. Gass Talent and/or Voice Producer

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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007, 08:32 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Oh, and by the way . the end of the story of the 75$ lead:
I've answered it, asking for more detail about what the recording will be used for. The guy answered immediately saying it was for a "podcast" and if I could do the job the same day. I again replied "yes" and told him, that delivery would be via download from my FTP-server - login information will be sent after having received the 75$ through PayPal.
And that's the end of the story. I haven't heard anything from him again. Well, perhaps the 75$ were simply to expensive. What I've learned from it: if you think there might be something strange with a personal lead: hit delete.
Thomas _________________ Thomas C. Gass
http://www.thomascgass.ch
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Ian Blumfield Voice Seeker
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Posted: Wed Mar 07, 2007, 11:45 (GMT) Post subject: |
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That $75 lead is a bit cheeky, that's like saying "we made a mistake and we want you to pay for it!".
I wonder if it would work elsewhere...maybe at a restaraunt "my wife made a mistake on the menu and we only have this much money can we still have the meal....please!" _________________ Royalty Free Music - www.ibaudio.com |
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Bobbin Beam Talent and/or Voice Producer - Voice Seeker

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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007, 13:18 (GMT) Post subject: Wow! Just got a 75$ private lead!!! - Who else? |
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JUST SAY NO!!!!  |
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Thomas C. Gass Talent and/or Voice Producer

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Posted: Mon Apr 16, 2007, 21:55 (GMT) Post subject: |
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...that's exactyl what I did, Bobbin  _________________ Thomas C. Gass
http://www.thomascgass.ch
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Garry O'Neal Talent and/or Voice Producer - Voice Seeker

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007, 15:45 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Thomas C. Gass wrote: | I again replied "yes" and told him, that delivery would be via download from my FTP-server - login information will be sent after having received the 75$ through PayPal.
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Hey Thomas, just curious. Can't you give your clients (not this for real bozo) a link to their audio file instead of giving them your FTP login information? Like "www.yoursite.com/audiofile.mp3". It may not work for you but it sure beats having someone nosing around your FTP site.
Garry O'Neal
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Amy Snively Talent and/or Voice Producer

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Posted: Sat May 12, 2007, 17:53 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| That's how I do it, Garry. Unless the files are enormous, in which case I just use yousendit.com. |
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