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Robert Jadah
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 Posted: Sat Feb 10, 2007, 05:31 (GMT) Post subject: Heart to Hart |
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Nice to read you, Vanessa. Welcome to the boards.
I agree with you, but would much prefer to skip the pleasure of cackling while I DELETE silly postings.
Cuz it's getting old.
I will fire up neither my computer nor my vocal system for less than $125, or the chance at winning same.
So please leave me out of all budgets below that.
And - with all the posting shenanigans - our chances at landing a cattle-call job are so small anyway that no filtering system is really going to hurt us.
I'm all for any set-up that channels true leads and accountable clients in sensible directions.
But maybe that's just me.
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Vanessa Hart
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Joined: 12 Jan 2005
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| Ah Robert - that's not quite what I meant. I totally agree that a filter that screened out jobs that we (talent) had stated were below our basic financial requirement for "firing up" would be great. My minimum is a little higher than yours and that's a filter right there. And both of our minimums are well above $35. So, yes - that sort of a filter would be great. What I'm trying to say is that I don't want any jobs that fall into my financial ballpark to not be passed on to me - i.e. I don't want a software program deciding if I can do a 12 year old girl based on my demos. By the way - great voice, nice demo. Thanks for the feedback. - V |
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Skid Trax
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Joined: 14 Aug 2003
Posts: 6
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007, 01:18 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Nice topic folks.
I am glad this is being addressed. I think there should be a filtering system. Splendid idea! I do not respond to nearly as many leads as I'd like to for a few reasons. One, is because I am a working talent, I have a nice stable of clients (thank you God!) and I generally get to audition for V123 when my immediate paid for clients are taken care of.
When I get to the point of replying to auditions, there is an absurd number of responses and then I quickly delete. When I am able to quickly reply for auditions I think I may have a shot at, I generally get a few gigs off of here.
Looking forward to some changes. Maybe "talent categories" would be a possible solution. From "farm club" to "seasoned" and so on...... |
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Mike McElwrath
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Joined: 17 Nov 2004
Posts: 33
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:10 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| I agree there are alot of leads. However, it goes back to the issue of paying a premium membership price for filtered leads. Why should every member not have the opportunity to audition for all leads. The client my like a particular audition from a talent that may not have been able to audtion if they were filtered out based on a set of criteria. Maybe I am missing something. Can you be more specific on the criteria that will be used in the filtering system of v123 2.0? |
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Freddie Molina
Voice123 Team Member
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Joined: 12 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007, 02:16 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Can you be more specific on the criteria that will be used in the filtering system of v123 2.0? |
Hello Mike,
Please be patient, very soon all the specifics regarding all the new systems, soon to be released on the site, will be published.
Just a little more.  |
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Mike McElwrath
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007, 04:07 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Will Do.
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Nikki Saco
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Joined: 25 Aug 2006
Posts: 465
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007, 05:55 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Robert, hear that? Your minimum is lower! I always knew you were a cheap date.  So much talent for the price. What a bargain!
I agree about reducing the number of custom demos requested on very low budget jobs. If clients are on a tight budget, I think it's fair to help them recognize that requesting custom demos of dozens, even hundreds of talents, is a little presumptuous. I suggested on another thread maybe charging a small fee for seekers who want custom demos; and those who post for free get only generic demos. I understand V123's concern about driving away leads. Obviously, no one wants that to happen. But there's nothing wrong with guiding the uninitiated among talent seekers in understanding that there's a fee for our VO services, including custom auditions. I think that's reasonable.
| Sal Monistere wrote: | | ... as a professional, I don’t believe VOICE 123 should be a place to ‘learn’ this craft... |
With that comment, I respectfully and consistently disagree. First of all, from a purely technical perspective, if you're a professional voice actor, you're always learning the craft. There will always be new experiences and hopefully new challenges. If there aren't, hang up the mic and give someone else a chance, Buddha. You've reached Nirvana.
It's no secret that I think everyone who pays a premium membership here deserves every opportunity. There's no reason why this voice marketplace shouldn't provide an opportunity for novices to hone their skills and learn the trade. There are enough places for union talent; where do the new kids on the block get to play? Also, you learn more when you teach. Just having to articulate a skill, sharing information, forces you to think about it and maybe use that skill yourself a little better.
My bottom line: IMHO, there's room here for everyone and V123 does a decent job. This isn't an agency and no one can promise you a job, right? The best V123 can do is to keep things the way they are: people posting jobs and other people responding to them, just like a marketplace. But they aren't satisfied with that. They want to improve the service. I've got no problem with that proactive sentiment. But this is still just a marketplace, and exactly what I signed up for. |
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Mike McElwrath
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| Posted: Fri Feb 16, 2007, 20:08 (GMT) Post subject: marketplace |
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| I agree |
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Freddie Molina
Voice123 Team Member
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Joined: 12 Oct 2006
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| Posted: Sat Feb 17, 2007, 03:29 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Hello Nikki,
| Quote: | | I agree about reducing the number of custom demos requested on very low budget jobs. If clients are on a tight budget, I think it's fair to help them recognize that requesting custom demos of dozens, even hundreds of talents, is a little presumptuous. |
Regarding the minimum budget required for custom demos, this is something that can be brought up to voice123´s QA dept and we will for a fact let them know about your comments.
| Quote: | | I suggested on another thread maybe charging a small fee for seekers who want custom demos; and those who post for free get only generic demos. I understand V123's concern about driving away leads. Obviously, no one wants that to happen. But there's nothing wrong with guiding the uninitiated among talent seekers in understanding that there's a fee for our VO services, including custom auditions. I think that's reasonable. |
We totally understand your comments and were you´re coming from. To charge a fee to the clients was an idea that was discussed quite a while back, unfortunately the conclusion was extremely simple If we charge a fee to the client , even if we give it back afterwards, will drive them away to other free websites or use different tools for casting.
This is one of those "catch22" situations.
| Quote: | | The best V123 can do is to keep things the way they are: people posting jobs and other people responding to them, just like a marketplace. But they aren't satisfied with that. They want to improve the service. I've got no problem with that proactive sentiment. But this is still just a marketplace, and exactly what I signed up for. |
Be patient Nikki, you´re going to love the new Voice123 we are almost there, the new tools and options promise to be an amazing way to optimize the process and deliver better results.
A lot of information should be coming soon. |
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