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Colin Campbell
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007, 02:03 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

...and of all those you hear on the radio and TV... how many times do you say to yourself... "if that guy can get that job... what am I doing wrong?" Mostly what I hear sucks so bad that I find myslef yelling at the TV saying "I can do that better."
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Jeremy Ryan
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007, 02:03 (GMT)    Post subject: Keep hope alive! Reply with quote

Colin Campbell wrote:
Well.. you sound better. What am I doing wrong?


Colin,

Thanks for the compliment. There is a lot to be said for being in the right place at the right time. There is a saying in the automobile sales industry that "there is an ass for every seat". So too is there a voice for every project. I am sure that you will be succesful if you stay focused and motivated. It sounds to me like you've got what it takes. Keep your eyes on the prize!

Jeremy Ryan
www.jeremyryan.biz
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Jeremy Ryan
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007, 02:38 (GMT)    Post subject: Perhaps we should agree to disagree... Reply with quote

Hey Robert,

Thanks for your input. I do respect your opinions, but I must resolve to disagree. I think the T-Shirt analogy supports my case just fine... it's all about intelligent, strategical marketing. Furthermore, I believe that a voice is a commodity. After all, that's why we are in this business, right?

From Webster's... "Commodity" (Noun); a useful thing; something that people value or find useful; something that can be bought or sold.

Continued success,

Jeremy Ryan
www.jeremyryan.biz
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Amy Snively
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007, 03:57 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

I want to hear the winning auditions!
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Freddie Molina
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007, 13:10 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hello Everyone,

Well this is something that was brought up on a previous forum back in November. The idea is great and we took it to Voice123´s development team. It is just a matter of time until we are able to see tools like that on the site.

Please keep all of those ideas coming 2 daumen hoch
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Amy Snively
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007, 13:19 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh Freddie! I'm so excited about the new stuff coming! Will any of it be this month?
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Freddie Molina
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007, 13:28 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

You’ll soon see a lot of new tools and changes done to voice123, unfortunately no information regarding time is available to us, be patient it’ll be soon enough für unsere mädels
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Todd Ellis
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007, 14:15 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I believe that a voice is a commodity.


I could not agree more on that one. Voices are our product - to buy and sell. And I don't have a problem with winning auditions being posted (except for the obvious: server space) we can choose to listen or not. I personally would not in most cases. I've got enough to worry about during the normal course of the day. I agree with Robert that it's nice to know SOMEBODY won the job and got a payday out of it. I DO NOT, however want to know what that payday was. Sharing the bid is tantamount to the boss posting everyone's annual salary on the bulletin board in the break room. It just isn't smart.
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J.S. Gilbert
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 08, 2007, 21:19 (GMT)    Post subject: WHy it's not a good idea Reply with quote

As both someone who auditions and works regularly as a talent and as someone who also hires talent, what you're suggesting doesn't take place for a number of good reasons.

Professional voicetalent have for many years tneded t o be rather tight lipped about the work they do. Besides doing work for national projects and concerns that I might want to promote my invovlement with, I also do work for large and small clients that isn't the type of thing I might want to associate my name with. I also happen to have a wide range and I'm not necessarily recognizable in the marketplace in all instances. In any case, as a voice talent, I want to have control over what projects I want to put on my resume and those I don't.

As for naturally assuming that if someone from here is not hired after an audition it represents fraud, that is incorrect. I have been in numerous video games where I was asked to read for an extra character or 2 and as a result, the person who might have been intended to come and do the job didn't. I've also seen numerous campaigns, commercial and otherwise fall apart during or shortly after casting. I've seen castings for men wind up using a woman. I've even seen a client resign an agency in the middle of production.

There may also be an unwillingness on the part of the client to have the voice talent represent themselves or use clips from a project for a variety of reasons. (Thisnk the spokesperson from Dell that got lockep up for smoking pot).

The unfairest part ofthis job and especially for those of us always seeking to improve our craft is that you onbly know if YOU got the job or didn't. You don't know if you're 2nd or 52nd choice. You also don't know if 300 people were considered for the job or if the person casting stopped listening to auditions at 12.

I should also mention that many of the auditions posted on here are also sent to Talent agents, other casting services and sometimes directly to actors. Just because someone wouldn't be hired from here doesn't mean that the audition was not on the ip-and-up.
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Bobbie West
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 09, 2007, 00:03 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: Great Idea Reply with quote

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Jeremy Ryan wrote:
Great idea Amy! This would be a very helpful tool... hopefully V123 will consider it.

Jeremy Ryan
www.jeremyryan.biz


the other thread on this topic is http://voiceoversavvy.com/viewtopic.php?t=410
& i get it now why the winning job price isn't important at all here, not even the vO talents name but it's just what was the sound that won the job. Reading a few messages from V123 insiders such as Freddie. it appears that the idea was submitted to the planning guys and along with some other schmantzi tools, they will have addressed this concern in some form or another.

[color=indigo]confidential to JS; you are so baaaaaaaaad (and that is good). king grin As someone who used to hire and direct talent, you'd be in my rolodex fer sure! Jeremy, you are the coolest! A member of that new, what I used to call the "everyman" generation. The one where the client wants the younger girl sound that involves "up-talking". I can't do it! Shheeesh

stay in school kids!
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Marilyn Taylor
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 10, 2007, 12:47 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why don't we use this forum for posting our success....I'd be really interested to hear about who got what job...It does not need to be 'an official list'...I'll start. I just got my second check in the mail. I've been a member since October (I think) I personally am totally new to the whole technical aspect of this job but have been doing local radio and TV spots for years. (don't anyone listen to my demo's they stink and I'm re-doing them all)...Which means you don't have to be the best....just what the client wants...(at least I'm counting on that) Anywho, the job was for Shopwiki.com and involved sounding like a news announcer (my background) It was about two short paragraphs and paid 150.00.. Laughing I'm completely blown away by it and it may be a total fluke but I am encouraged to keep on going and not worry if I am the 'best or not'...my philosopohy is 'do my best'.
I encourage others to share their 'winnings' in this forum and mostly encourage all of us to keep our chins up... Thanks, Marilyn Taylor
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Sid Whatley
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2007, 02:17 (GMT)    Post subject: Orson Wells Reply with quote

Hey everybody. I've got a real treat for ya. Colin Campbell mentioned that Orson Wells was the greatest VO artists of all time and if there is such a thing then Colin is right. I've got 3 actual VO session recordings that circulated the studios back in the 80's complete with out-takes. I have Orson Wells, Colonel Sanders & Dean Martin/Jerry Lewis. Gonna start a new subject here in The Pros-New Forum, download the sessions & give an explaination. Your gonna LOVE this!!
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