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Brian Haymond
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 Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008, 01:44 (GMT) Post subject: Bob Bergen: Could You Help Provide A Rate Guidline? |
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Not to put you on the spot or appear presumptuous, but Mr. Bergen's response was so good...
Per Mr. Bergen's comments in response to Ms. Leach's post about rates. I would like to know if Mr. Bergen has a "rate-card" that he could post...something that covers the usual:
Radio Commercials per market (S-M-L-Major)
TV Commercials per market (S-M-L-Major)
Promos plus Tags
etc.
...just a thought!
PS: If we all banned together and would be willing to abide by a respectable rate-card, we would do two things:
1) Establish a base from which to work, one whereby our craft is respected by online voice seekers as valuable and the online site is not seen as a place to get "cheap voices".
2) Improve the integrity of our business
Brian in Charlotte
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Aaron Phillips
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Something I've been wondering specifically is how to charge for website narration. Obviously it's different for every site in regards to content, how long the piece is, things like that. But is there a standard? Does it count as industrial?
Thanks Bob! Or whoever else answers! |
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Todd Ellis
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this has been discussed many times - great information in the archives!
"search" is your friend
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Aaron Phillips
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| Would you guys say there's a good percentage of each paycheck to save for taxes and such? |
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Bob Bergen
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008, 06:48 (GMT) Post subject: Re: Bob Bergen: Could You Help Provide A Rate Guidline? |
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| Brian Haymond wrote: | Not to put you on the spot or appear presumptuous, but Mr. Bergen's response was so good...
Per Mr. Bergen's comments in response to Ms. Leach's post about rates. I would like to know if Mr. Bergen has a "rate-card" that he could post...something that covers the usual:
Radio Commercials per market (S-M-L-Major)
TV Commercials per market (S-M-L-Major)
Promos plus Tags
etc.
...just a thought!
PS: If we all banned together and would be willing to abide by a respectable rate-card, we would do two things:
1) Establish a base from which to work, one whereby our craft is respected by online voice seekers as valuable and the online site is not seen as a place to get "cheap voices".
2) Improve the integrity of our business
Brian in Charlotte
www.VoiceOverForYou.com |
Hey hey!!
Well, there really isn't what's considered a S-M-L market when it comes to union work. Just union work.
Here are the union contract rates from The voice-over Resource Guide. Hope it helps:
RADIO*
Expires October 29th, 2008
Download AFTRA Radio Report Form (PDF)
SESSION FEE $249.50
This SESSION FEE is paid for each spot you record. A like amount is paid each 13-WEEK renewal Cycle while in USE.
LA or Chicago Alone 13 - Week “WILD SPOT” USE RATE $338.80
A “WILD SPOT” is for UNLIMITED use in as many cities, on as many stations for any number of airings. When your “WILD SPOT” airs you are paid the USE RATE based on the number and size of those cities.
NOTE: Producers are given, in most cases, one credit for the previously paid SESSION FEE. That SESSION FEE amount is only deducted from the FIRST 13-WEEK USE RATE payment.
ADDITIONAL “TAG” RATE (AT BEGINNING, MIDDLE, OR END) $103.25
“DEMOS - COPY TESTS FOR NON-AIR“ FEE $171.95
4 - WEEK “NATIONAL NETWORK” USE RATE $684.90
13 - WEEK “NATIONAL NETWORK” USE RATE $1,353.85
13 - WEEK “REGIONAL NETWORK” USE RATE $817.00
BROADCAST TELEVISION*
Expires October 29th, 2008
Download SAG Broadcast Contract (PDF)
Download AFTRA TV Report Form (PDF)
SESSION FEE $426.40
This SESSION FEE is paid for each spot recorded. A like amount is paid each 13-WEEK renewal Cycle for USE or HOLD (Holding Fee).
LA or Chicago Alone 13 - Week “WILD SPOT” USE RATE $685.10
A “WILD SPOT” is for UNLIMITED use in as many cities, on as many stations for any number of airings. When your “WILD SPOT” airs you are paid the USE RATE based on the number and size of those cities.
NOTE: Producers are given, in most cases, one credit for the previously paid SESSION FEE. That SESSION FEE amount is only deducted from the FIRST 13-WEEK USE RATE payment.
ADDITIONAL “TAGS” * (2-25 IN BODY OF SPOT OR AT END) $126.55
Public Service Announcement “PSA” (w/ SAG waiver) 1-YEAR USE RATE $426.40
“NON-AIR DEMO” FEE $213.20
13 - WEEK “PRGM CLASS A / NETWORK” (EACH AIRING) USE RATE
1ST USE 2ND USE 3-13 USES 14 USES OR MORE
$402.25 $96.00 $76.35 EA. $34.65 EA.
NETWORK TELEVISION CODE*
Effective through November 15th, 2007
PROMO RATE $227.00
7 DAY RATE for on and off-camera performers in Television Program Promotional Announcements airing on TV or Cable. The 13-Week Rate is $350.00. The Rate when airing on Radio is $270.00 per 13-Weeks.
ADDITIONAL PROMO “TAG” RATE (AT BEGINNING, MIDDLE, OR END) $93.00
CABLE TV*
Expires October 29th, 2008
Download SAG Broadcast Contract (PDF)
Download AFTRA TV Report Form (PDF)
13 - WEEK “COMMERCIAL” RATE $426.40
Minimum RATE for UNLIMITED airings in a 13-WEEK Cycle. A like amount is paid each 13-WEEK renewal Cycle while in USE or on HOLD (Holding Fee), EXCEPT MADE FOR CABLE ONLY where there is NO Holding Fee. A higher RATE could be paid based on a combined total of Cable Subscriber units. The maximum amount of units is approximately 2000 = $1833.50 per 13-WEEK Cycle.
NON-BROADCAST-CAT.1 / INDUSTRIAL / EDUCATIONAL*
Expires April 30, 2008
Download SAG Non-Broadcast Contract (PDF)
Download AFTRA Non-Broadcast Report Form (PDF)
NARRATION (FIRST HOUR SPENT IN YOUR RECORDING SESSION) (CAT.2 $416.50) $374.50
NARRATION (EACH ADDITIONAL HALF HOUR INCREMENT OF SESSION) $109.00
OFF & ON-CAMERA NARRATOR & SPOKES (1ST DAY) (CAT.2 $985.50) $832.00
NARRATOR SPOKESPERSON (EACH ADDITIONAL DAY) (CAT.2 $569.00) $457.50
ADR WALLA*
Expires June 30th, 2008
SESSION FEE $759.00
This SESSION FEE is paid for recognizable voicing of five lines or more in a Theatrical Film, MOW, TV Series or Pilot. Residuals are paid based on each airing either Network, Syndication, Cable or Foreign and Video or Multimedia release. These residuals are activated using the same formula as on-camera performers. The voice performer is placed on the CAST LIST.
ANIMATION - TELEVISION ANIMATION*
Expires June 30th, 2008
SESSION FEE $737.00
This SESSION FEE is paid for up to Three Voices in a single program or segments of programs over ten minutes in length. Less than 10 minutes the FEE will be $648.00. If more than Three Voices, you shall be paid an additional $209.00 per voice. Residuals are based on Producers optioned payment schedules.
INTERACTIVE MEDIA*
Effective through December 31st, 2007
Download SAG Multimedia Contract (PDF)
SESSION FEE $737.00
his Off-Camera RATE is paid for any single Interactive Platform performance of up to Three Voices during a Four Hour Day. Add $238.70 for each additional voice. The Day Performer RATE for 1 voice / 1 hour is $358.00. Voices used on any ON-LINE or NETWORK Platform or used as a ‘LIFT’ to another program, add an additional 100% of the original RATE in each case if the rights are acquired within one year of initial release and 110% after such period.
AUDIOBOOK*
All Rates are Per Hour (in studio) or Per Side, whichever is higher
NARRATOR / ANNOUNCER $145.00
ACTOR (1 ROLE) $127.75
ACTOR (2 ROLES) $255.50
ACTOR (3+ ROLES) $385.00
For these purposes AFTRA has defined a Side as “each 5-minute segment of (your finished product) recorded material on which the artist respectively performs.” |
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Brian Haymond
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008, 14:33 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Bob, this will be tremendously helpful to many. All my rates are based off the AFTRA list. What I was hoping for by asking you to lay things out is exactly what you did...you have provided an easy to understand presentation whereby those starting out and those who are interested in assessing their current rate card, can get their minds around it all...wonderful.
Certainly, these rates are "minimums" and personal studio use, HR and agents fees would be in addition to these rates if a producer happened to hire a union talent. Those who have this list will be now be on a strong foundation from which to build. If all talent would start from this same foundation, we would all be so much better off.
I am quite thankful for your time and effort in providing this chart. I'll copy this and offer it to those who would ask me in the future...my sincere thanks. |
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Bob Bergen
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| Posted: Tue Jan 08, 2008, 14:39 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Brian Haymond wrote: | Bob, this will be tremendously helpful to many. All my rates are based off the AFTRA list. What I was hoping for by asking you to lay things out is exactly what you did...you have provided an easy to understand presentation whereby those starting out and those who are interested in assessing their current rate card, can get their minds around it all...wonderful.
Certainly, these rates are "minimums" and personal studio use, HR and agents fees would be in addition to these rates if a producer happened to hire a union talent. Those who have this list will be now be on a strong foundation from which to build. If all talent would start from this same foundation, we would all be so much better off.
I am quite thankful for your time and effort in providing this chart. I'll copy this and offer it to those who would ask me in the future...my sincere thanks. |
You bet!!!
Yes-agent's fees are added onto the actor's salary. And yes, these are minimum (scale) fees listed above. With a union job an actor doesn't legally have to pay their agent commission unless they get over scale (which is the +10% added for the agent)
This information was from The voice-over Resource Guide. This is THE bible to the VO industry in LA. It lists every teacher, demo producer, agent, session fees, studios, etc. I understand plans are in the works to expand it to other cities in the future.
Here's the direct link:
http://voiceoverresourceguide.com/la/index.html
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Claire Dodin
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Thank you so much for all this info!
I'm moving to LA soon, and this will be very useful!
Cheers! 
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