Anybody else try out for this one?

Deby Cedars · **Voice Talent** Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1482

There is only one jingle Mark.....The rest is voiceover.

Jingles are sung.....voiceover or radio imaging sentences....script sentences are spoken.

You would refer to my spoken sentences as "jingles". That is what I mean by not understanding your emails!

I also want to make something real clear. I WOULD NEVER EVER BAD MOUTH ONE OF MY CLIENTS! The fact of the matter is your not one of my clients. I do have clients by the way anyone who takes the time to read my v123 page can see that I have worked professionally. I've sold, written and performed radio commercials for KZSP oldies radio station.

The fact of the matter is for you to be one of my clients you would have to pay me.

mark jones · **Voice Seeker** Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 9

Oh and 1 last thing ,the first project was going to be for a net station but we found that it would cost to much to set up so and copyright laws etc. , I emailed you with a re submitted plan for the station which was
The project is a classic rock music station with no djs and is totally automated , at a start it will be running in a public house (pub) 24 hours a day and people who drink in it will hear your voice as the sound of the station, with rock music as well.
Im looking for a strong kind of voice or sung jingle package for the station, within a budget, this project is on going so will be using yourself on a weekly or monthly turnaround.
Its based near to Manchester in the uk, I have some scripts ideas myself but im open to offers from other people as well.
You tell me your rates for this type of job and we will go from there.

So the 6 pounds a jingle was pulled after a few days and I emailed everyone of this, and yourself included, to say our budget ideas were to low , but you never goy back to me on this again.

You did me one jingle I put echo on it to let you hear it , the reason I did not yuse your "jingle" was as the way you put yourself over the company jsut thought it was not worth it.

3 days to respond to emails and again we cant find anywhere where we said rock n roll , its a classic rock project not a rock n roll station I will include some jingles from voice overs we used can you or anyone who reads this tell me if you come up to this standard what we are using.

mark jones · **Voice Seeker** Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 9

This is one of a couple of jingles what the station did use

mark jones · **Voice Seeker** Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 9

And Another

mark jones · **Voice Seeker** Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 9

And another

mark jones · **Voice Seeker** Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 9

These are just some we used all paid for to , No problems at all

Sabrina Sterling · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007, 18:38 (GMT) Post subject:

Hi Mark!
Surprised to hear my voice on here! Like what you did with it.

Sorry to read about the issues

David Oxford · **Voice Talent** Joined: 09 Feb 2007 Posts: 505

I know this is none of my business - or anyone else's besides the two of you - but I can't figure out something: did you (Mr. Jones) agree to hire Ms. Cedars for the work or not? The squabbling about whether the work was good enough or whether the levels were bad or anything else doesn't mean a hill of beans (or a baby's spilled dummy?!?) if there was some kind of agreement between you.

I'm not siding with anyone about it, just trying to be a neutral observer. I'm just saying that if you agreed to hire her and then backed out, I think she has a legitimate issue with you. Did you not get an audition from her and make a decision about how "bad" she was before you contacted her about doing the work? Were you not able to determine, immediately, whether her audition was up to your standards or not? 'Cause from the cheap seats, it sounds like she was under the impression you hired her for the job.

Carry on.

Bettye Zoller · **Voice Talent** Joined: 03 Aug 2003 Posts: 163

When you "smell a rat" always insist on getting paid BEFORE you record it! Usually, if the voice seeker is an advertising agency or you can look them up online by website or in a phone directory, they are going to pay you. If it is a big brand name, you're probably ok. If it's "jake in tulsa" (no slur on that fine town...) look out! Ask what their company name is. Ask for their website. Try to phone them back and see who answers and says what! If you phone back (have a legit question in mind!) and their kid or somebody else answers and doesn't sound like it is legit...run, don't walk. You have to be careful when working for online clients.

Sabrina Sterling · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007, 22:12 (GMT) Post subject:

Hi
I hate to get involved in this but I have seen M"s web site, the night club where his radio show is broadcast in and I've seen the pub. He is authentic. I'm not posting his web address on here, that is up to him. I have been paid for all the work I've done for him and at a much higher rate in pounds sterling, not the 6 pounds mentioned .
This whole thing has just got way out of hand and is just a simple misunderstanding that should have been dealt with in private.

mark jones · **Voice Seeker** Joined: 14 Jan 2007 Posts: 9

Just to hopefully end this now, at no time did i say i would hire her for her voice, i asked her to send me some audtion stuff with the scripts i had sent her and i wrote back to her asking for details of her work just details then she assumed mistakenly that I wanted to hire her. But with the mistakes I said thanks but no thanks but she sent me some more stuff and I had to write to her again , telling her that her work is not what we are looking for.

if she wants to contact me she can but im not going to say anything more on a public forum as everything has been said that has to be said.

Somewhere mistakes were made in contact but at no time did i want to hire deby for her voice , and the singing ones i would have liked her to work for me, but the way she has said things on here i just dont think its worth it im sorry to say.

Colin Campbell · Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007, 22:38 (GMT) Post subject:

Two things...

Firstly... we need better grammar, typing and english.

Secondly... this is why you should consider carefully whether you should even answer a $75 lead from anyone.

It's like when you have a puppy to give away to "a good home." Charge the person $100 so that you know the person is serious about wanting to care for the puppy.

Anyone who can't communicate and only offers $75 is not likely to ever pay the $75.

If I detect any lack of civility in a lead, or a ridiculously low price... I DELETE.

Deby Cedars · **Voice Talent** Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1482

From: "mark jones via Voice123" <support> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: debycedrs@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Project "Classic rock radio 2" (sent to debycedrs@yahoo.com)

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Hi there is there an email address I can contact you upon instead of
this , I would like to use your voice for scripts , and you also say I
get 1 min for 75 dollars ok so if I wanted some 10 secs some 15 thats
adds up to a min which is fine , how do you except payment paypal ok , im
in the uk remember, how can I send you scripts or you send me a demo
back of using your voice on one of my scripts

thanx mark

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Deby Cedars · **Voice Talent** Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1482

From: "mark jones via Voice123" <support> Add to Address Book Add Mobile Alert
To: debycedrs@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: Project "Classic rock radio 2" (sent to debycedrs@yahoo.com)

Hi thanx for that can you send a normal email address as be easier as
faster than this, , I have enclosed scripts on here. , Like some ideas
on scripts for the music as well but we can continue that as on going
which bullds up my jingles from yourself being on a fixed budget. my
email is *****@****.com if ok with you here are the scripts 50
dollars is ok for a4 page and do you have a paypallink on here .

Jingles about 10 seconds to 15 seconds but we can do them every
fortnight if ok with you due to budget restrictions.

Playing nothing but the best classic and current rock –this is
classic rock radio

Playing easy rock and ballads from yesterday and today –classic rock
radio

Soft rock hard rock soulful rock all kinds of rock 24 hours a day
classic rock radio

We are never more than 60s seconds away from another great song classic
rock radio.

We don’t let the djs do the talking we just let the music do it
instead –classic rock radio

We don’t play the same 500 songs over and over and over our playlist
just gets bigger and bigger and we never play the same song within 24
hours - classic rock radio

We play what we say just the best rock music anywhere –classic rock
radio

Rocking good radio –classic rock radio that really rocks and rolls

The best music from yesterday to the best music of today classic rock
radio

Here comes another great rock song that we ve not yet played today
classic rock radio

The rock never stops classic rock radio- rockin good radio

Rock radio thru the night classic rock radio

Easy rock and ballads from yesterday and today classic rock radio

The rock never stops on classic rock radio

Late night easy rock and ballads classic rock radio

let me know your music ideas , in a rocky kind of way please , thanx

look forward to hearing from you.

Had loads of replies and must say its good that I have found someone up
to the standard im looking for.

Mark

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Deby Cedars · **Voice Talent** Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Posts: 1482

From: mjdj1689@btinternet.com View Contact Details Add Mobile Alert
To: "Deby Cedars" <debycedrs>
Subject: RE: more stuff from deby
Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2007 01:11:36 +0100

Hi is it poss to call you sometime as think that would be best. But no
elvis on it just stuff like journey thru to modern day stuff beatles
will be on it but later stuff to but all commerical stuff not underground
i will send you a list when im at home. Im a full time dj and at work
at the mo until 3 in the morning . But if you are free later let me
know or can call you after i finish. And will explain more to you then

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Subject: more stuff from deby
From: Deby Cedars <debycedrs>
Date: 27/08/2007 12:08 am

Hi Mark.....Here is some imaging stuff that has not been engineered.

I was also wondering what decades of Rock were going to be
played. I mean Rock and Roll does sound like 50's Rock. I mean will
there be Elvis along with the Led Zepplin? Do you consider Averil
Lavine rock? I'm just trying to come up with new jingle ideas and I
just need to know more about the product.

Debyï¿¼
Deby Cedars
debycedrs@yahoo.com

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