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How would you rate my recording and voice quality?
1 - Terrible, it hurt my ears!
0%
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2 - Semi-terrible, low quality!
0%
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3 - Bearable, nothing special!
42%
 42%  [ 3 ]
4 - Decent, it sounds good to me too!
57%
 57%  [ 4 ]
5 - Incredible, you may actually have a carreer
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Total Votes : 7

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Jared Sewell
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Joined: 06 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007, 06:29 (GMT)    Post subject: What am I doing wrong? Reply with quote

I've auditioned for almost 40 projects and I have yet to recieve a single offer. I began by using some substandard equipment as it was all I had and because I thought at first that it would be sufficient, however, somebody from the voice123 team e-mailed me to tell me it was not.

Since then I have upgraded my equipment and the difference is like that between night and day, yet, there are still no offers.

I'm adding a recording to this post, assuming I do it correctly, in the hopes that one of you fine folks will see where the problem is and help me to correct it. Thank you all in advance for your time, your consideration and your advice.



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Tyler McKellar
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Joined: 08 Sep 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007, 07:31 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

From a technical standpoint your recording is fine. As far as anything being wrong, if it is I surely did not notice. I am going to say check this thread out in the Chit Chat section. Listen to that podcast. Like I said you sound fine. Your voice just may not be exactly what the clients are looking for in the auditions you sent out. So keep plugging away at it and sooner or later you'll get something.
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Andy Quiñones
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007, 12:39 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jared, I think you'll get a better answer to why your auditions are or are not up to snuff if you record and post one or two reads on demo of the day thread so folks can render opinions on your delivery.

Hang in there, hope this helps

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Scott Pollak
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Joined: 05 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007, 15:28 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Let me add, too, that 40 auditions without a nibble is not at ALL uncommon here. I believe Bob Bergen quoted a stat that the typical actor gets, perhaps, 1 gig out of 60 auditions... if that! It's no different here. As a pro who has done this stuff for over 30 years, I'm quite happy to land one job out of 60-100 auditions submitted.

I went to your page here on V123 to try to learn more about you and there's not much there to learn about. You have ZERO demos posted and judging by your brief bio I can only assume you're pretty new to this business. Your 'experience' says:

"I am an expert in computer systems and software, digital security, Public Key Encryption, Emergency Response Team creation, training and mangement and networked systems survivability."


... not exactly the stuff a voice seeker puts real high on their priority list.

Now you sound like you have a VERY pleasant voice, but not having heard any of your auditions, it's impossible to tell if you rock, suck, or are somewhere in-between.

You need experience, passion, dedication, thick skin, training, practice, more training, more practice, more dedication, and oh yeah... talent.... to make just a DENT in this industry. And then there are the .001% who can make a full living at it, just like in any other 'entertainment' industry (e.g.: singing, acting, sports... etc.).

Let's start by hearing you post some auditions and/or demos either in the "Leads and Reads" forum and/or the "Critique My Demo" forum and then perhaps we can see if we can offer some solid advice.

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Jared Sewell
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Joined: 06 Aug 2007
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 15, 2007, 17:10 (GMT)    Post subject: Invaluable... Thank you!!! Reply with quote

Tyler, thanks for the link to Connie Terwilliger's site, she shares so much information about her experiences and gives such great advice that I will have to go over it several times just to adequately absorb it...

Andy, thank you so much, I will post on the "demo of the day" today and see what kind of feedback I get.

Scott, my expectations were extremely unrealistic, I see that now. In my mind, I was going to be the next James Earl Jones after the first audition. Not very likely... I have been afraid to post a demo as I wasn't sure if it would help or hinder, given that I have been auditioning for specific projects based on the script notes provided. The other information was posted because I really don't know what else to say about myself yet. I will post demos on my page today and update my bio with information more relevant to a potential client's interests. I will also be posting to the "Leads and Reads" forum and the "Critique My Demo" forum today.

Bless you folks for giving me some direction, as you can see, I really needed it badly. I've been told so many times throughout my life that I should do something to take advantage of a natural god given talent, but between my own insecurities and a fundamental lack of knowledge on the industry, such a goal has been beyond me, until now.

Thank you my brothers for your advice, your encouragement, and the empowerment such things provide... God bless you all!!!
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Geoff Huenerfauth
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Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007, 15:24 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Scott Pollak wrote:
Let me add, too, that 40 auditions without a nibble is not at ALL uncommon here. I believe Bob Bergen quoted a stat that the typical actor gets, perhaps, 1 gig out of 60 auditions... if that! It's no different here. As a pro who has done this stuff for over 30 years, I'm quite happy to land one job out of 60-100 auditions submitted.


Hiya, folks. The name is Geoff but I should probably just go by the generic title YAN (yet another n00b). Smile I haven't made an introductory post since I haven't even got any demos posted yet.

Scott, I have a clear picture of the ratio of jobs to auditions that is to be expected, but can I ask over what time span 60-100 means to you? I would think that might vary greatly from person to person.

Scott wrote:
You need experience, passion, dedication, thick skin, training, practice, more training, more practice, more dedication, and oh yeah... talent.... to make just a DENT in this industry. And then there are the .001% who can make a full living at it, just like in any other 'entertainment' industry (e.g.: singing, acting, sports... etc.).


Understood. But to make a full-time living at it it would seem to me that you can't take the time to do other things 'on the side'. For a lot of people in the industry, while they love the work, they also enjoy being a producer, or engineer, or combinig it with music and/or screen acting (a la someone like EG Daily). If that's what you love, then no one can say that's not the right thing to do. But if what you love most is doing voice work, I would think making a full-time living of it means narrowing down to an extremely sharp focus and throwing every last bit of energy and effort you have at it.

All your 'spare' time should be spent either learning or practicing, and all your 'work' time should either be doing a job or actively pursuing landing one. Sure, different people have different goals and motivations, but I can't help but think it's not about making use of a natural talent, but actively and energetically pursuing something you love doing.

I sincerely hope I'm not coming across as argumentative, judgemental, or a know-it-all n00b. I'm genuinely curious as to how different people in this industry view and go about what they do. Now, to some degree everyone's ideal would be raking in obscene amounts of cash doing what they like, but, fantasies aside, is it that unrealistic to think that if you really put your back into it and give 200% effort that you can't simply support yourself on voice work alone? Is a roof over your head and food on the table actually being unrealistic?

Respectfully,

-Geoff
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Robert Jadah
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 17, 2007, 16:44 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geoff Huenerfauth wrote:
... put your back into it and give 200% effort that you can't simply support yourself on voice work alone? Is a roof over your head and food on the table actually being unrealistic?
Respectfully,
-Geoff


Sadly, Geoff, the answers are no and yes, respectively.
For illustration purposes, you can compare us to models and actors. The average income for unionized actors is $5,000 per year. These are dedicated craftspeople who - for the most part - have talent, training, experience, agents, and filmographies. These are people working at staggering hourly rates.
$5,000.
For models, the average is about $1,500, although they have the carriage, looks, skeletal looks, and agencies required to compete for everything from the local WalMart flyer to the cover of Vogue.

Meanwhile, we're some 40,000 voicers sitting at home squabbling over $100 gigs. That's 40,000.

Certainly, if you work hard, train, practice, and devote yourself utterly and completely to understanding your craft and your sound, you just may elevate yourself into an inner 10% stratum of about 4,000.

But now, to make a decent living, you need to clamber past 75% of these superior talents to reach the glittering Top Thousand.
And that's a decent living.
To reach the lands of milk and honey, you've got a ways to scrabble yet.

All the elements you outlined go a long way, certainly. It will help you keep pace with the heard. But luck, talent, contacts, business savvy and superhuman hustle are what takes you beyond.

Voice On!
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Jacob Ekstroem
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Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Thu Sep 20, 2007, 01:22 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tyler McKellar wrote:
From a technical standpoint your recording is fine. As far as anything being wrong, if it is I surely did not notice...

Hmmm...
Jared, I'm one of the tech-geeks in here, and I for one certainly did hear some problems.

Your biggest problem is noise. Your recording have noise in just about every part of the frequency spectrum. You have low-frequency rumbling noise, that comes from your pc running in the background. You have high-frequency hissing noise, which is produced by the equipment itself.
So first of all, you need to work on correcting these problems.
Is your recording done in the exact same circumstances, you would do an audition? I mean, at the same recording levels, same environment etc.?

One of the problems could be due to your extremely low recording level. You could mask some of the high-frequency noise by recording at higher levels. The noise from your computer can be dealt with aswell, by simply moving it further away from the microphone.

Do these basic things first. Then, try again, and let's take it from there.

May I ask, what your equipment upgrade consisted in?

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