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Lance Blair
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007, 06:22 (GMT)    Post subject: A Helpful VO Interview Reply with quote

My apologies if this interview has already been posted elsewhere on these forums, or if it's not good netiquette to refer to the following site, but this is a nice interview with a certain well known vo talent:

http://www.minewurx.com/echos/article.php/20070319082041121

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Ed Gambill
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007, 12:35 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Lance

Thanks, it was a very good read. I took special not about his studio method. Read it, keep it dry and let the client do all the tweeking. A very good KISS system

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Ronald T Robinson
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007, 14:14 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

The way we used to "time" a mix on multiple Ampex machines was by putting a chunk of colored tape on the reel; back it up 2 or 3 full revolutions and hit "play".

We'd watch the reel and just before it finished it's revolutions, we'd hit a "record" on the master-Ampex.

Worked like a damn! - occasionally!

Getting that "The Big Hurt" or "Itchycoo Park" flanging effect was another story altogether! Smile
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Lee Gordon
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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007, 16:46 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ronald T Robinson wrote:
The way we used to "time" a mix on multiple Ampex machines was by putting a chunk of colored tape on the reel; back it up 2 or 3 full revolutions and hit "play".

We'd watch the reel and just before it finished it's revolutions, we'd hit a "record" on the master-Ampex.


Of course, you had to do it with the "gate" open and then gently close it so you wouldn't get the click from the record button.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007, 17:33 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ronald T Robinson wrote:
The way we used to "time" a mix on multiple Ampex machines was by putting a chunk of colored tape on the reel; back it up 2 or 3 full revolutions and hit "play".

We'd watch the reel and just before it finished it's revolutions, we'd hit a "record" on the master-Ampex.

Worked like a damn! - occasionally!

Getting that "The Big Hurt" or "Itchycoo Park" flanging effect was another story altogether! Smile


Wow, Ron - I had forgotten all about doing that! At one station where I worked, we had the twin reels back behind us (as we faced the production console) so we had a remote control panel that controlled both machines, including the speed. So, you could alter the speed, slightly slower - then slightly faster - on one of the machines during the playback of the same audio track to get that cool flange effect.

Ah the days of tape and razor blades!

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 03, 2007, 17:40 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

As the "old-farts" convention continues...

We never had vari-speed remotes on anything, so what we would do is use thumb-pressure on one or both of the reels of each deck until we got juuuuust the right flanging effect.

Now, about those mountains of tape on the production-room floor.... Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007, 15:03 (GMT)    Post subject: Grease, alcohol, and razor blades........ Reply with quote

Imagine how many of us were trusted with these three things: grease, alcohol, and a razor blade when approaching an Ampex!!!! Laughing
And how many of us forgot to turn off the machine and amp when demagging? Something you only did once Laughing
And how many of us dodged a flying piece of sketchy plastic reel flange when it self destructed at max rpm's rewind?
And how many of us found creative uses for metal flanges? Laughing

It would be fun to have an old school edit contest against Dan L.
Say 5 mouth noise edits and 5 sentence breaks (but with "room tone" spliced in).
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Colin Campbell
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007, 15:32 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wow! Man... that was a great article. Being an old analog fart myself. Ah... the days of the grease pencil and razor blade.

On the phazing bit.... I remember screwing around on the air as a jock with two copies of the same record very slightly slowing one down, then the other mixing them together on the air to create a "psycadelic" effect.

Great stuff.

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007, 15:35 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the PD's never understood what drove a jock to do that on air.
Working alone in a small market with a format that was too tight was always the "mother of invention". Laughing
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007, 15:49 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: Grease, alcohol, and razor blades........ Reply with quote

Michael Strah wrote:
And how many of us forgot to turn off the machine and amp when demagging? Something you only did once Laughing

Yup, been there! Once... Very Happy

Michael Strah wrote:

And how many of us dodged a flying piece of sketchy plastic reel flange when it self destructed at max rpm's rewind?

Aah, never did that... but it would have been sooooo cool!! Very Happy

But let me add:

How many of us accidently changed the speed from 15" to 7½" and had to switch it back "on air"?
How many of us forgot to switch the monitor-switch to the right position, before recording?
feedback, feedback, feedback, feedback, FEEDBACK!!!
How many of us forgot to rewind the tape, took it off the machine and archived it, so the next time it played backwards?
How many of us did an edit-out, realized you needed the piece anyway, and spend hours trying to find the right pice of tape in the pile on the floor?
How many of us ran out of splicing-tape in the middle of the night?
etc...

Yeah, that were the days indeed! Very Happy

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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007, 17:38 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

"How many of us forgot to rewind the tape, took it off the machine and archived it, so the next time it played backwards?"

Ah, c'mon, we all know you covered that one with "Hey, didn't anyone ever teach you what "tails out" is?" Laughing

Said with a straight face and a dismissive tone, it saved the lives of many LOL!
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007, 19:21 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Michael Strah wrote:
And the PD's never understood what drove a jock to do that on air.
Working alone in a small market with a format that was too tight was always the "mother of invention". Laughing


I remember a time once when I was on the air on the AM (an AC station) and through the window was the FM jock (AOR.) Occasionally both stations would have the same song on the playlist. (Real Love by the Doobie Brothers in this case.) So we got on the phone and started the same song at the same time just to screw with the PD or GM. AM or FM, same song synced.

Man, I have so many of these stories.

I remember putting the little one inch or "oops" tape back in from the floor too. (Damn, now it's backwards! Cut it out and turn it around and be careful with that precious inch of tape!)


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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007, 23:09 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was on the air and doing production, as well. One of our "prod"-jobs was to be sure to place a piece of sticky tinfoil on the tape in the cartridge juuust before the audio started. (This served as the "start/stop"-cue.)

Once again, the foil had fallen off and the cart refused to start. I turned in my chair and hollered, "C'mon bitch! Start!!"

The next time I bellowed at a cart-deck, I made sure the on-air mic was off! Smile
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PostPosted: Fri Sep 07, 2007, 23:56 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

My first radio job was at a station that could be described as a "toilet." We had three ancient Tapecaster cart machines (the ones that looked like bathtubs) all running through the same pot on the board. So every cart that was poorly erased (and that was most of them) would leave a little "whoop-whoop-whoop" sound in the background as the next spot was being played. And, of course, when the cart "burped" at the end because the cue was too tight, you got to hear that on the air as well. The obvious solution to this problem was to stop the carts as soon as they were done playing and wait until the stop set was over, pot down, and finish cycling the carts until they re-cued. But who the hell ever remembered to cue up all of their carts. And that, of course, resulted in the other problem: dead air when sombody slapped an uncued cart in the machine, hit the start button, and got nothing -- well, except for the "whoop-whoop-whoop" and the burp.
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PostPosted: Sat Sep 08, 2007, 00:11 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ronald T Robinson wrote:
I was on the air and doing production, as well. One of our "prod"-jobs was to be sure to place a piece of sticky tinfoil on the tape in the cartridge juuust before the audio started. (This served as the "start/stop"-cue.)

Once again, the foil had fallen off and the cart refused to start. I turned in my chair and hollered, "C'mon bitch! Start!!"

The next time I bellowed at a cart-deck, I made sure the on-air mic was off! Smile



LMAO RON!!! I laugh because I had an almost identical experience years ago. Thankfully, the Program Director had a sense of humor and the next day, there was a sign in the control room: "Just a reminder - NO visitors in the control room!" hehehehehehe.
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