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Michael Minetree Voice Talent - Voice Seeker

Joined: 26 Jan 2004 Posts: 27
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006, 18:46 (GMT) Post subject: Re: Talent Audition Quality |
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| Bobbin Beam wrote: | | Hi everyone. I too have been experiencing the same issues as many of the talent here have voiced. |
I listened to your upload and as far as audition standards, it was more than adequate, and was a vast inprovement over the old system.
It's not broadcast quality, nor should it be. But as far as being able to tell what you sound like it was fine..
The whole "Darth Vader" thing eludes me.. You may be talking about quantization: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quantization
which is going to be part of any audio at this sampling rate.
The MP3 that is there is fine.. If it sounds super-duper bad to you I would be more curious what you are listening to it with.
Michael Minetree
Minewurx Studio
www.minewurx.com |
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Freddie Molina Voice123 Team Member Site Admin

Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 1227
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006, 19:11 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Hello everyone,
| Quote: | | s it possible for the tech staff at V123 issue some SPECIFIC guidelines for mp3 conversion, and include directives for the most widely used types of recording software , like ProTools , Soundforge, etc., AND include settings for converters like iTunes which will render success. |
Bobbin, this is a really good idea and will bring it up to them, it might take a little time to put the information together due to the amount of software and hardware out there.
One thing to keep in mind is that settings on each software and hardware piece involved in the process might change the end result.
A general recommendation will be to record at 16 bit, 44.1, then you can export your files as Mp3, 64kbps, Mono, 44.100hz. Remember most converters need to be set up under 128 kbps, then select mono, this way you can get the 64kbps, mono.
Also converting with iTunes should be quite easy if the software used does not have a suitable conversion tool, here are some directions:
Go to iTunes preferences/ advanced/ importing, from here you’ll be able to select the format, from setting select custom, 128kbps, 44.100 Hz, Mono, that should give you the proper settings to upload and avoid any playback problems. |
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Jim Sanders Beasley Voice Talent

Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006, 19:35 (GMT) Post subject: More file upload comments |
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Based on what I'm reading I'm changing my upload mp3's to 64kpbs, 44,100 Hz, 16 bit. I had been using Sound Forge (a little compression and normalization with wave hammer and EQ for a specific mike I'm using) and saving and uploading at 128, 44,100, 16 bit. Everything sounds oK when I play back saved auditions or preview but I sometimes notice a little distortion, especially if I compressed too much or recorded hotter or pushed the mike.
I'm hoping going down to 64 fom 128 and even less compression will be an insurance policy. I was using 128kbps, 48,000Hz, 24 bit for awhile and that seemed to come out muddy when I previewed. There was no pitch change, however.
I am in my first six months on Voice123 and not much longer doing this kind of thing from a home studio after many years of having someone across the glass to worry about this mumbo jumbo. However, I don't recall any instructions other than less than 3 megs in file size when I signed up.
The upgrade to 96 is a nice touch but I think many of us could use a bit of handholding on any upload options when this becomes a reality.
I'm getting at least a job a week so things must be tolerable. However, we need all the help we can get.
I think I'll start sending very distorted files to all those children with play web sites who request "that movie trailer guy."
And the hobby horse they rode in on.
Old dude |
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Jim Sanders Beasley Voice Talent

Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006, 19:54 (GMT) Post subject: Ooops |
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Listen to what Freddie said above about 128 which somehow magically converts to 64 mono (although I recorded in mono to start with and didn't "convert" anything except the Sound Force master file to make it an Mp3).
I recorded a test just now and set my save options to 64, 44,100, 16 bit and it sounded underwater right here.
When I went back to the way I've been saving: 128, 44,100, 16 bit everything sounds fine (yet the file properties show it 128 mono, not 64 mono).
This setting uploads and sounds fine online so I'm not messing with it (until the new 96 option comes to town). |
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Freddie Molina Voice123 Team Member Site Admin

Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 1227
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006, 20:12 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Sounds good Jim, unfortunately these specific settings are just a recommendations, I will accept in some cases (depending on your software and hardware) will require a little more of trial an error.
I’m interested to know a little more of your recording settings, | Quote: | | I was using 128kbps, 48,000Hz, 24 bit for awhile |
Are you still recording at 48 and 24 bit? |
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Jim Sanders Beasley Voice Talent

Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006, 20:25 (GMT) Post subject: reply |
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| I'm now recording at 44, 100, 16 bit, mono. At least for auditions. |
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Freddie Molina Voice123 Team Member Site Admin

Joined: 12 Oct 2006 Posts: 1227
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006, 20:46 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Ok, if the settings you are using currently work for you, than stick with them, but if you notice any problems, please let us know, we’ll look in to it further. |
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Jim Sanders Beasley Voice Talent

Joined: 18 Apr 2006 Posts: 6
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Posted: Tue Oct 31, 2006, 23:08 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Fair enough.
Thanks. |
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Donna Matthews Voice Talent

Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006, 05:37 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Hi!
I was wondering if anyone uses a laptop for recordings or if we can ever get quality recordings with one. Are there better sound cards that can be purchased or any other equipment that could make it work? I have access to my radio studio for use after hours but it would really help to have my own studio and right now all I have is a laptop at home.
Thanks for any ideas.
Donna |
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Bobbin Beam Voice Talent - Voice Seeker

Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 47
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006, 06:03 (GMT) Post subject: Audio Quality |
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| Thanks Freddie. I have all my settings set as you'd suggested, but auditions still sound "out of phase", to me while listening back over V123. Oh well. I am not going to worry about this any more, Maybe I am too critical. Thanks, Bobbin Beam |
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Connie Terwilliger Voice Talent

Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 409
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006, 06:43 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Donna Matthews wrote: | Hi!
I was wondering if anyone uses a laptop for recordings or if we can ever get quality recordings with one. Are there better sound cards that can be purchased or any other equipment that could make it work? I have access to my radio studio for use after hours but it would really help to have my own studio and right now all I have is a laptop at home.
Thanks for any ideas.
Donna |
I use my Compaq PC laptop when I go on the road - with an AKG1000 mic and a little DBX pre-amp. Works great. Pile a bunch of pillows around me and ask for a room away from the elevator and the construction...
Connie Terwilliger |
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Donna Matthews Voice Talent

Joined: 05 Jul 2005 Posts: 5
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006, 15:04 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Hey thanks for the reply Connie. What settings do you use on your pre-amp? And what software do you use?
Thanks!
Donna |
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Bobbin Beam Voice Talent - Voice Seeker

Joined: 17 Oct 2005 Posts: 47
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006, 15:34 (GMT) Post subject: Use of Laptop |
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| Donna Matthews wrote: | Hi!
I was wondering if anyone uses a laptop for recordings or if we can ever get quality recordings with one. Are there better sound cards that can be purchased or any other equipment that could make it work? I have access to my radio studio for use after hours but it would really help to have my own studio and right now all I have is a laptop at home.
Thanks for any ideas.
Donna |
Hi Donna,
I also use a laptop, like my friend Connie T. I have a Dell for all my work and it works like a champ. I travel with it too. I take my Mbox, mic and laptop and record with ProTools LE. I also use pillows, and a large blanket to deaden the room noise. Best, Bobbin Beam |
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Connie Terwilliger Voice Talent

Joined: 14 Jul 2003 Posts: 409
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006, 16:10 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Donna Matthews wrote: | Hey thanks for the reply Connie. What settings do you use on your pre-amp? And what software do you use?
Thanks!
Donna |
I can never remember what settings I use on the pre-amp, so I just push the little buttons and swivel the little dials until it "sounds" right...how 'bout that for technical! I probably should have the "right" settings written down somewhere.
Anyone know the optimum settings? (And I know some of them will change depending on my settings on the computer.)
Here are the 5 options on the dbx...
Gain Knob (+26 to +60dB) =
+48V = (Up or Down)
20dB PAD = (Up or Down)
PHASE = (Up or Down)
OUTPUT LEVEL (-infinity to +10dB) =
As far as software - I use Adobe Audition and Vox Studio.
Regards,
Connie |
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Louis Tristan Voice Talent

Joined: 07 Jul 2005 Posts: 266
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Posted: Wed Nov 01, 2006, 16:14 (GMT) Post subject: Pillow Talk |
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I used at one time on a PowerBook G-4, with Sound Track Pro a looooong time ago. Can say the program will only perform well with a faster processor, Hard Drive Space, some sort of audio interface and RAM.
Would not recommend a USB mic since it doesn't give that shimmer you'd normally get when using a Mic that requires phantom power.
Settings vary, sometimes you can change the settings on the pre amp or through the software on your machine. It all depends on what sort of voice you re going to be doing. When recording a Higher pitch voice lower the gain in different programs you may have access to and you'd get different results.
You have to experiment. Just keep the Mic away from the machine because you don't want the sound of fan/processors comming in s ambient sound .
With the right software you can do anything. Stay out of the red zone..
What software are you using?
Watch this:
http://img671.libsyn.com/img671/c15716e95f477b01cd3f7d2a8d34c5d0/4548cc09/3392/1336/izzyvideo32.mp4
| Donna Matthews wrote: | Hey thanks for the reply Connie. What settings do you use on your pre-amp? And what software do you use?
Thanks!
Donna |
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