VoiceOverSavvy Is no longer available. We invite you to continue being part of our community and help Voice123 improve the voice over industry. Contribute to the new Voice123 Premium Forums by clicking here.
Voice Over Savvy.com - Free Forums for the Voice Industry & Community Free Forums for the Voice Industry & Community  
 
voice overs
searching for the right image for cover art!!!!!!
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
 
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    Voice Over Savvy Forum Index -> THE PROS
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author |Message
Colin Campbell
Talent and/or Voice Producer - Voice Seeker
Moderator


Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Posts: 5287

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007, 16:43 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Amy's logos look good. Maybe ask her how she got them done.
_________________
www.ColinCampbellVoice.com
Member SaVoa...#07040... www.SaVoa.org
Back to top
View user's profile
Deby Cedars
Talent and/or Voice Producer



Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 1482

PostPosted: Tue May 08, 2007, 21:05 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Todd, that image is not near funny enough for you. I think a pie in the face photo of you would be better than that one.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Heather Ruby
Talent and/or Voice Producer



Joined: 08 Sep 2006
Posts: 188

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007, 03:54 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm feeling like an idiot now. Not only is "THE MIC" my main website graphic, but I just put it on my freakin' demo CDs as well. Swell. AGHAHAHAHHHH!!! Obviously, I missed the webinar Saturday. I should not have gotten into the car to run errands when I did.. I KNEW that I would miss it.

That said, Deby, I really LOVE this website I ran into tonite. They obviously do branding well. Here it is..just food for your thoughts.
http://www.emeraldforest.com

Heather

_________________
Heather Hruby
www.thevoicefinders.com
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Gina Figliuolo
Talent and/or Voice Producer



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Posts: 10

PostPosted: Wed May 09, 2007, 15:55 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Idea
As a graphic designer (anyone need some demo cover art done? Laughing ) I have a little trick I use if I'm stuck when I need to come up with appropriate imagery.

I'd suggest doing a keyword search on a stock image site, or in a pinch, you could even run a Google images search here: http://images.google.com/ (though your results will be much more random than if you use a stock image site). Plug in words that apply to your style and you'll be presented with visual representations of those keywords. It'll probably give you some great ideas, things you might never have thought of!

Good luck!
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Maya Kuper
Voice Seeker



Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007, 15:22 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: searching for the right image for cover art!!!!!! Reply with quote

Bob Bergen wrote:
Deby Cedars LMT wrote:
Ok
I've taken classes. I got my demo. Now I want to brand my image! But what graphics should I put on my cover???

I have the young chearleader voice
or the more grown up sexy voice
or the more grown up soothing massage voice.

which one do I represent on the cover and how do I visually get that message across as advertising to advertising professionals.

You guys know my personality and have heard my voice. Any suggestions?


This is actually harder than the demo itself. How do you market this corporation called you????

Well, first off, don't market your sound. Market your personality. The sound of your voice is only part of your brand. A cheerleader/sexy/soothing "voice" is a dime a dozen. And no one needs another!! Trust me, from those represented by the top VO agents in LA and NYC, to the zillions out there in the e-world, this business has all the voices it needs. What it doesn't have is YOU. Your heart, your personality, your personal brand that makes your cheerleader/sexy/soothing reads different from anyone else's.

What sets you apart?? What is it you are bringing to the table that no one else is? What sets you apart and makes them notice??? And how do you see your own uniqueness being branded to set you apart from everyone else?

I know I've not given you any answers. I can't. No one can but you. Think about it. Like Dina said, it will come to you.

Just PLEASE don't use a mic!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Wink


Everything you said is right on.

_________________
Maya Kuper, audio producer
http://www.mix4pix.com
Back to top
View user's profile
Maya Kuper
Voice Seeker



Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007, 15:29 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

One more thing . . . once again, I gotta refer folks to the Sound Advice website; there are some REALLY awesome graphics examples there:
http://www.voiceoverdemos.com/graphics.html



And the matching website, http://jamieblythevo.com



Another one,

And http://carrieleepatterson.com


One more,

And http://lynnemagnavite.com


I just love these!

_________________
Maya Kuper, audio producer
http://www.mix4pix.com
Back to top
View user's profile
Craig Koepke
Talent and/or Voice Producer



Joined: 31 Dec 2006
Posts: 422

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007, 18:19 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maya, good advice as always. Kate know your throwing out some free advice? Laughing

One thing though, the graphics are very nice on the ones you have shown. Others that I have seen are so, so and very pricey to boot.

Tell me, does the person see themselves in those graphics? Am I supposed to imagine that the personal image I see conjurs up a thought in my mind what that person might be like?

Now take for instance C. Patterson, am I to think that she is a flower child from the late sixties? I doubt it? Is Judyth supposed to be serene, romantic and somewhat mystical?

You also have a person on the SA demo page that has the Titantic resting on top of a mountain. Am I to assume that he sees himself shipwrecked in this profession?

Personally I don't think it has much to do with who you are as much as it has to do with what catches the eye. Paying someone hundreds and even a couple of thousand for artwork can be risky.

Personally you can go to your local college or university and find many graphic design students who would jump at the chance to try there hand at working up somethng for you and at a very reasonable price.

I may be way off base here but it just seems that your individual personality and the graphics even from professionals aren't going to give me any idea of that ones personality.

For what its worth,

Craig Wink
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Maya Kuper
Voice Seeker



Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2007, 19:24 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig Koepke wrote:
[b]Maya, good advice as always. Kate know your throwing out some free advice? Laughing


Oh . . . everyone on these forums is "throwing out free advice." Smile It's not just me!

Quote:
One thing though, the graphics are very nice on the ones you have shown. Others that I have seen are so, so and very pricey to boot.

Tell me, does the person see themselves in those graphics? Am I supposed to imagine that the personal image I see conjurs up a thought in my mind what that person might be like?

Now take for instance C. Patterson, am I to think that she is a flower child from the late sixties? I doubt it? Is Judyth supposed to be serene, romantic and somewhat mystical?

Personally I don't think it has much to do with who you are as much as it has to do with what catches the eye. Paying someone hundreds and even a couple of thousand for artwork can be risky.


The designers that SA recommends don't stop working until you're happy with your graphics. Yes, the idea is that the graphics on your demo suit you and who you are. C. Patterson has a pretty, lacy, floral, feminine thing going on while still being whimsical--I don't think her graphics say "flower child"--it's not a psychedelic theme. Jamie is dark and mysterious and loves fireflies--she wrote a song called "Fireflies" and her commercial demo features that song. Lynne is more clean-cut and corporate.
A good, experienced designer will give you plenty of options to choose from, all of which are eye-catching AND show who you are as a person.

Quote:
You also have a person on the SA demo page that has the Titantic resting on top of a mountain. Am I to assume that he sees himself shipwrecked in this profession?


He had a friend do his graphics for free--he didn't go with one of the designers that SA recommends.

Quote:
Personally you can go to your local college or university and find many graphic design students who would jump at the chance to try there hand at working up somethng for you and at a very reasonable price.


Sure, but you get what you pay for. And a student who's never done it before might not have any idea how to transfer the design onto a CD face or postcard. I wouldn't pay someone for a graphic design unless I'd seen many examples of their work that I really liked.

Quote:
I may be way off base here but it just seems that your individual personality and the graphics even from professionals aren't going to give me any idea of that ones personality.


Between the graphics on your demo and the demo itself, the idea is to communicate your personality and who you are--because that's what sets you apart from everyone else. It's like Bob Bergen said above: "What are you doing that no one else is? . . . How do you see your own uniqueness being branded?" That's what you want to communicate. Nobody's going to listen to the demo if your graphics suck! That's why the graphics are important.

_________________
Maya Kuper, audio producer
http://www.mix4pix.com
Back to top
View user's profile
Craig Koepke
Talent and/or Voice Producer



Joined: 31 Dec 2006
Posts: 422

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007, 16:35 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

That's true Maya in many respects.

Owning a business for over 25 years, working with the University of Northern Iowa and there business management classes as an advisor for 5 years, the one thing that I learned over the course of years is that branding takes time and a bunch of it. The problem is Maya, I don't know that individual from Adam if I'm the agent. I don't have time to try and interpret what that individuals graphic is trying to say about them. The other graphic you liked with all the blue in it, isn't that open to interpretation? To me it has absolutely no eye appeal at all, but you like it. How is the agent or client going to see it? You get to know some of these individuals because you meet them when they come into the studio, so you might get an idea of what they are like. Also age of the agent will be a contributing factor. Such as C. Patterson's graphic. Myself growing up in the late 60's, Vietnam war raging, love and peace, psychedelic patterns, that graphic has flower child written all over it from my perspective. Something I realize you can't relate to simply because it was before your time.

I'm not knocking there designs, but what I am trying to say is we tend to put to much emphasis on some of these things. In reality to start with it is not branding as much as your graphic has to simply be eye catching, intriquing, the same as when you write a resume, it has to catch the attention of the person doing the hiring. The brand will come in time as hopefully your name has been out there for awhile, from a variety of things that you are known for, the graphic being one small part of the equation. For the time being the graphic just needs to eye catching, because no one really knows you and frankly they don't have time to get to know you.

University graphic design people are not the only solution, but I tell you, they will work there hind ends off for you. Its like us, after all its their first or one of there first paying jobs. This also does not mean that this is the only way to go, but it is an option for those who don't have the hundreds or even thousands to throw down.

For what its worth,

Craig
Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Maya Kuper
Voice Seeker



Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007, 17:11 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig Koepke wrote:
The other graphic you liked with all the blue in it, isn't that open to interpretation? To me it has absolutely no eye appeal at all, but you like it. How is the agent or client going to see it? You get to know some of these individuals because you meet them when they come into the studio, so you might get an idea of what they are like.


Well, I've never met Lynne in person and I don't really know what she's like (since she did her demo at SA before I worked there, over three years ago). Obviously she likes the graphics and wouldn't have picked 'em if she didn't think they had eye appeal. I do know that currently she's with THREE agents and she's been working steadily in voiceover for a long time, so I'd say that the demo and the graphics have worked out well for her.

Quote:
Also age of the agent will be a contributing factor. Such as C. Patterson's graphic. Myself growing up in the late 60's, Vietnam war raging, love and peace, psychedelic patterns, that graphic has flower child written all over it from my perspective. Something I realize you can't relate to simply because it was before your time.


You're right, I don't have the benefit of perspective on that one, but I still think it's pretty and catches the eye.

Quote:
University graphic design people are not the only solution, but I tell you, they will work there hind ends off for you. Its like us, after all its their first or one of there first paying jobs. This also does not mean that this is the only way to go, but it is an option for those who don't have the hundreds or even thousands to throw down.Smile


If a student has examples of their work that I really like, then sure, bring it on! I would warn against taking advantage of them by paying them less than what the design is worth. I think a good design is worth a great deal.

SA recommends some graphic design folks, but we don't force anyone to use our folks. Some SA clients use designers they know from elsewhere. Here are some examples:
http://bechuntervo.com
http://jamiemayberry.com
http://justinholtvo.com

_________________
Maya Kuper, audio producer
http://www.mix4pix.com
Back to top
View user's profile
Craig Koepke
Talent and/or Voice Producer



Joined: 31 Dec 2006
Posts: 422

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007, 18:26 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maya,

I certainly respect your thoughts on all of this. I just cannot buy into all of this seeing from past experience the things that I and other associates went through in business with advertising. One thing I will agree with though, and that is that you MUST continue to bombard these people with your name. I had businesses get down right annoyed with me, the guy says "I'll call you when I'm ready." I told him that if I wait for you to call me you will be buying from the first guy that comes through the door when you think you're ready whether its me or not. He agreed and we set up an appointment and he turned out to be one of my best customers and personal friends to this day. Also why is there tele-marketing even though most of us hate it? IT WORKS!!

BTW I think the one with the Titantic on top of a mountain is one of the most eye catching graphics I've seen in along while. I would look at that one just out of curiosity. He was fortunate to have a friend that was that inspired.

Oh and University students? Everyone starts somewhere and since it seems to be what appeals to the buyer, what is there to lose if you like it?

Fun chatting with you Maya. As Robert Jadah stated, its our sandbox and now and then we throw sand.

Craig Very Happy
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Bobbin Beam
Talent and/or Voice Producer - Voice Seeker



Joined: 17 Oct 2005
Posts: 47

PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2007, 18:54 (GMT)    Post subject: searching for the right image for cover art!!!!!! Reply with quote

Thanks everyone for the great tips so far. After last week's webinar I have zeroed in on something new for myself, which I will first discuss with my agent before implementing.
I really do enjoy Mr. Mic head tho (lol)
Best,
Bobbin
Back to top
View user's profile
Maya Kuper
Voice Seeker



Joined: 04 Oct 2006
Posts: 97

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007, 16:53 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Craig Koepke wrote:
Everyone starts somewhere and since it seems to be what appeals to the buyer, what is there to lose if you like it?


That is true!

U of Northern Iowa is near and dear to me since my family lived there through my 1st grade year. My sister and I went to Malcolm Price Lab School and I LOVED it! Smile My mom was taking Accounting classes at UNI.

_________________
Maya Kuper, audio producer
http://www.mix4pix.com
Back to top
View user's profile
Ronald T Robinson
Talent and/or Voice Producer



Joined: 22 Apr 2004
Posts: 1008

PostPosted: Mon May 14, 2007, 20:18 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

So.... it's an ix-nay on ammy-Pay....? Smile
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Deby Cedars
Talent and/or Voice Producer



Joined: 23 Jan 2006
Posts: 1482

PostPosted: Wed May 30, 2007, 06:10 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ronald,
Your going to have to explain pig latin to me. I never have understood it. Confused
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
Display posts from previous:   
This forum is locked: you cannot post, reply to, or edit topics.   This topic is locked: you cannot edit posts or make replies.    Voice Over Savvy Forum Index -> THE PROS All times are GMT
Goto page Previous  1, 2, 3  Next
Page 2 of 3

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum
You can attach files in this forum
You can download files in this forum