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Debbie Irwin
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PostPosted: Mon Mar 12, 2007, 19:29 (GMT)    Post subject: Soundproofing Reply with quote

I am ready to purchase some basic foam soundproofing for my home studio. Does anyone have any suggestions of a website (or store in NYC)
that sells it inexpensively?
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Maya Kuper
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PostPosted: Wed Mar 14, 2007, 03:06 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://auralex.com/

You can order it from stores like Guitar Center, and eBay is also your friend!

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Sid Whatley
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 02, 2007, 00:18 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Guy a Noise Gate instead first. When using your mic it will only "open" when you speak into it. Unless there happens to be a Bulldozer right outside your window it will work well. If you are using a computer recording program it probably already has it.
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James Henderson
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 00:37 (GMT)    Post subject: Studio Sound Proofing Reply with quote

I would definatly get the noise gate. But it you have alot of slap back in the room, it will pick up on the mic while you are talking. I would go to ebay and purchase a box of audimute. It is not the most beautiful stuff in the world but it works great. I think that you can purchase about 8 blankets of Audimute and it covers about 195 sqaure feet. Also get some eggcrate foam (I have found it at places that ship picture frames) and cut into pieces and put them in the top corners of your room.

Let me know if you need any help.

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Brian Hart
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 05:09 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: Studio Sound Proofing Reply with quote

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Philip Banks
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 09:25 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: Studio Sound Proofing Reply with quote

James Henderson wrote:
I Also get some eggcrate foam (I have found it at places that ship picture frames) and cut into pieces and put them in the top corners of your room.

James


Don't forget to replace your mic with a headset mic and sit in front of corrugated iron sheets when you record, better still record your demo at the local Kindergarten. 9.45am is the ideal session time for the latter. Very Happy

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Thom Wilkins
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 09:53 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: Studio Sound Proofing Reply with quote

Philip Banks wrote:

Don't forget to replace your mic with a headset mic and sit in front of corrugated iron sheets when you record, better still record your demo at the local Kindergarten. 9.45am is the ideal session time for the latter. Very Happy

Phillip (Hi) - corrugated iron sheets? So that's the secret of the British enunciative ability! - I would never have thought of it... Do you use the naturally rusted ones for a softer tone, or the zinced ones for that modern urban sound? Rolling Eyes

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Thom Wilkins
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 10:48 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sid Whatley wrote:
Get a Noise Gate instead first.


To All: Rolling Eyes The problem with a noise gate - is the noise is still there in the background when the gate is open (i.e., when you are talking) this can add to disturbing artifacts in your recorded track. You can also hear when the gate opens/ closes as the sound level approaches the gate threshold, and noise delay based on the gate attack/release rates - so deal with the background sound first to get it to an acceptable level, you might then gate any residual noise if absolutely needed. Remember G.I.G.O. or in this case N.I N.O (Noise in/Noise out) Shocked Also remember that a gate does nothing for room reflection (slapback/echo) or room equalization problems (low freq resonance, standing waves...etc.)

Debbie - In NY - B&H Photo has Acoustic materials/ Also Markertek on the Web, both carry Aurelex and other noise abatement products.

In a pinch you can always climb in a clothes closet full of hanging clothes at 3AM - But in the city that never sleeps? - Wink

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James Henderson
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 12:03 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want a cost effective way to sound proof a room do it the way I said. And use a noise gate. It is all just a matter of opinion. I have done it this way for several years...no complaints.
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 12:46 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: Studio Sound Proofing Reply with quote

Thom Wilkins wrote:
[Phillip (Hi) - corrugated iron sheets? So that's the secret of the British enunciative ability! - I would never have thought of it... Do you use the naturally rusted ones for a softer tone, or the zinced ones for that modern urban sound? Rolling Eyes


Thom, I use new improved AuralRing. It's a virtual iron-rust treated Vocal booth system available in corrugated sheet form, via hypodermic dart or as a suppository.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 12:52 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Joe J Thomas
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 14:13 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thom Wilkins wrote:
Sid Whatley wrote:
Get a Noise Gate instead first.

To All: Rolling Eyes The problem with a noise gate - is the noise is still there in the background when the gate is open (i.e., when you are talking) this can add to disturbing artifacts in your recorded track.

I agree Thom. I found that out early on.

The audio should be as clean as possible coming in to the mike if you want the best quality final product.

That being said, I do use some noise cancellation software, but that's very different from a noise gate. It works with a sample of some constant noise (say, a computer fan), and removes it. Of course the down side is it also removes a bit of other audio as well, but I find the compromise acceptable...

Good topic,
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James Henderson
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 16:17 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Brian,

You are correct, The term "sound proofing" is often misused. The studio that I have right now is the guest room. In order to keep the sound from outside coming in, I took about 20 mins and put up the audimute. Actually blankets may work just as well but my wife is not crazy about that idea. When I first put this up in the room, it was almost like walking into an anechoic chamber. I was so quiet that you would almost get dizzy. I could stand inside the room and yell and you couldn't hear me in the next room. Now to get rid of and reflections that were left in the room I used foam. The noise gate works great against the computer noise.

P.S.--It's good to be here.

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Thom Wilkins
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 16:24 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

James - you can always move the PC out of the room - there are some cable extenders that will place the mouse/ screen(s) keyboard , etc. quite a distance from the PC - The noice reduction plugins will work (Joe) esp. if the background noise is constant, and very low(S/N high) , if S/N low - then there are artifacts introduced in the waveform, esp in the esses, and beginning of words - but they(plug-ins) are getting better all the time. - A combo of Isolation, Acoustic treatment including LENRD/ bass traps/ displacement of noise generation equipment, plug-ins and gating will do the trick. - Short of a full double walled iso booth... The 703 is great stuff - And acoustic blankets help as well ( audimute / acoustic quilts.. Here are some sound related links:
http://www.asc-studio-acoustics.com/st.htm
http://www.controlnoise.com/fabricpanel.html
http://www.acousticsfirst.com/
http://www.markertek.com/index.asp
http://www.ethanwiner.com/density/density.html
http://www.soundcontrolroom.com/why4less.htm
http://www.auralex.com/

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 23, 2007, 16:27 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

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